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I too have a (lovely but) lurking au pair!

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Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 21:42

She is very nice! She is so wholesome! Her whole family hang out ALL THE TIME together in the sitting room at home! They hate privacy, in fact, what is privacy? They never just sit in their rooms or need any time off from family life! They love to chat! All the time! Au pair is in most ways adorable and working through some Big Themes (you know, just turning from a teen into a proper 20something - she is actually a 20something but feels more like a teen/Anne of Green Gables due to aforesaid Walton-like home life) and follows me around wanting to Discuss It All*.

*I really get this but this is why I lived with a bunch of like-minded peers at this age and Discussed It All nightly over wine and fags and music etc.

Clearly I am a fucked up individual with a bitter stonelike heart and a fractured family background, but to be fair all of my other au pairs have been same and have tacitly understood 'be an au pair and be like a member of the family' to mean 'come and provide reasonably well-paid childcare for not too many hours and spend the rest of your time out on the razzle and/or establishing some kind of online empire from your room, where we never enter.'

This one I think is so sweet that she actually wants to BE one of the family and follows me around talking. Also she has the nicest heart and is a good egg but very dappy, and so I feel like her best friend/mom/therapist in one (in fairness her mom is also her best friend and therapist, and also lives in my home via constant skype/video link.) God I'm such a bitch. i just have nothing. left. emotionally. to give. at the end of the day with work/kids/DH away all week.

Anyway, the result of all this is that I lie with the kids until they're asleep, which does take ages due to one of them having a slight sleep issue, then it's ME who skulks off to my room and scurries about furtively. Meanwhile, au pair has whole run of sitting room and kitchen EVERY WEEK NIGHT.

I would say something, but as I was thinking how best to, she was telling me something other about her truly heinous ex employers (they really were very exploitative) and she said, 'And another thing, Jill would be like really firmly and meanly, "Jack and I really need to have a couples date night. Can you go hang out in your room?" Isn't that AWFUL? They were so mean, I would sit in my room all on my own and cry.' And I was like, 'God, that's awful, what a bitch.' And now I'm all 'I. AGREE. WITH JILLLLLLL.' Aargh.

So I am sitting in my room all alone and almost crying (not really) and she is ensconced on my nice sofa in my sitting room. I mean, she would love it if I came down and we, I don't know, watched Dirty Dancing and made s'mores but I just can't! I need space.

She is so lovely, it's like kicking a (quite thick-skinned) puppy!

She is very nice and trustworthy and yes, I am very lucky and we are 3/3 the favourite employers and not at all mean. I mean I really can't think of a way to say, 'sometimes it would be awesome if you wanted to hang out in your room', I know that. I just needed to rant.

If cherry of the lurking au pair could come and commiserate that'd be nice.

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Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 23:22

Do you know what, I actually wonder whether ifly and pp have it. I don't think she intends it, but we have definitely moved to working around her a bit.

I am normally so assertive! I am from a culture known for not shying away from confrontation! What has happened to me! Broken.

Okay I am actually taking all this on board.

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theconstantinoplegardener · 18/06/2018 23:20

Have you tried giving her a chore
every time she appears? "Oh Laura, could you just empty the dishwasher for me...put this basket of washing on...run the vacuum cleaner round the living room for me? ".

She'll soon start hiding in her room!

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 23:19

I think there's two reasons they au pair, one is 'I need somewhere safe and reliable to live and I quite like kids and people and this family sounds reasonable and there's a great night life locally so... I guess they'll do'.

The other is 'I love kids! And people! I am excited about being part of another family and learning their ways, and telling them (lots) about my culture!'

The second are in many ways the most laudable. However.

Just to add I am normally counted as an extrovert 'people person' and specialise in working with / managing difficult characters. Maybe it's her that is normal though, and somewhere along the 'having small kids' tunnel I just became a bitter viper.

Furrycushion they sound delightful, clap yourself on the back for a job well done. Au pairs are as pp have noted hot currency these days so if you agented them out could be healthy business sideline for you?

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Iflyaway · 18/06/2018 23:17

Sounds like she could be a master manipulator. She’s got the run of the downstairs!

This ^^

Who the fuck comes into your home and starts taking over the living space? That is really weird.

Sorry OP. This is a lesson in assertiveness for you.

"Speak your truth with loving words."

Purpleneonpinkunicorns · 18/06/2018 23:13

Another vote for Jill,
Jill won't let you down,
Jill will be straight to the point and usher new family member upstairs or outside.
Grin

Furrycushion · 18/06/2018 23:11

I feel your pain, but isn't that why au pairs au pair, so to speak? To live with another family, learn the language etc etc? Boot her out & employ a surly teenager. I have some I can send you & I promise they will only come out of their rooms to feed. In fact they wouldn't do that if I didn't force them to!

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 23:10
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NonnoMum · 18/06/2018 23:08

I understand though. It's easier to risk your children's well being than to face anymore childcare decisions...

NonnoMum · 18/06/2018 23:07

and now the children are feral and fend for themselves

hahahaha

TolstoyAteMyHamster · 18/06/2018 23:03

Oh. This. We had this. It was head meltingly awful because I couldn’t be mean and couldn’t stand up for myself, so I became snarlingly nice and seethed inside. I drank a lot then she left and the children cried and I danced a happy jig. Next au pair never left her room except to do the school run and answer the door to her Deliveroo deliveries, which annoyed me in all sorts of other ways. I concluded I am not suited to au pairs and now the children are feral and fend for themselves.

skulduggeryintheshrubbery · 18/06/2018 22:55

You and DH are going to have to become nudists. Couple of nights, hanging out in the lounge/kitchen with it all hanging out should do the trick. Watch her run for the hills Grin. Though this could backfire and she could decide to become a nudist too, just to fit in with your lovely family.

CAAKE · 18/06/2018 22:54

'I. AGREE. WITH JILLLLLLL.'
😂

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 22:54

Oh god Nonno, you're right, I am really mean.

I feel so much better now though.

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HollowTalk · 18/06/2018 22:48

There's just something about an enthusiastic and happy person when you're trying to relax that makes me want to lash out and scream.

CanIBuffalo · 18/06/2018 22:42

It would Drive Me Insane.

Watch out though, once she's twigged that you're sloping off for some headspace in your room she'll come a-tappin at your door for company.Grin

NonnoMum · 18/06/2018 22:32

It's just tough. Suck it up.

Don't be such a meanly.

Ohyesiam · 18/06/2018 22:25

Oh god i feel
Claustrophobic just reading about it. That would drive me insane.

Couldn’t you cope without her! Or with a normal teen?

Namechange128 · 18/06/2018 22:20

This is totally not helpful in any way, but you write really well, that was very funny to read.

More practically - I'd sit down with her and talk about what family means to you, and set some clear guidelines. I come from a big chatty family and it (embarrassingly) it took a really long time for me to work out that some flatmates just want to cook for themselves only and / or eat in silence etc Blush.

It is mean if you send her off to her room half way through what she sees as a nice conversation but not if you establish in advance that Tuesday and Saturday evenings you and your husband would like to spend a few hours with just the two of you and could she please arrange to be upstairs / elsewhere. Could you set some super clear ground rules and see how this works? Depending where she's from, clear hints to you might be indecipherable for her.

If nothing like this works then another placement might suit better. You can't be on edge all the time in your own home - and she also sounds like she might fit right in for example in a large family where they're more used to being on top of each other, and if she hangs around in the evening she'll learn her lesson quickly by always getting roped into helping with the washing.

Warning though, my friends are having nightmares sorting au pairs at the moment, numbers are way down with Brexit so she may hold all the cards here!

LadyLance · 18/06/2018 22:19

Would she join a sports team that trains on a weekday evening? Might give you a bit more time to yourself?

Or maybe just frame it as like an introvert vs extrovert thing (I think this is all bollox but it might work without offending her) that sometimes you need some down time to recharge in the evenings even though she doesn't and it's not that you want to send her to her room but maybe sometimes you just need a little space from each other.

FWIW I agree with Jill too.

acornsandnuts · 18/06/2018 22:17

Be like Jill

I too have a (lovely but) lurking au pair!
Boomboomboomboom · 18/06/2018 22:15

I felt a total bitch letting ours go but honestly the sense of relief when she was gone, and to get, for want of a better word, a 'normal' au pair was amazing.
I did everything you did and the reality was she was a family home bird, in my home with my family. I'm sure that works for some but it didn't for me.
I felt suffocated.
Seriously, this won't get better. Unless you think better the devil you know, I'd look elsewhere...

MyDcAreMarvel · 18/06/2018 22:15

You don’t need a connection for a tv just buy an amazon fire stick. You can watch freeview and you tube or also Netflix and prime.

GuntyMcGee · 18/06/2018 22:14

Sounds like hell OP.
There is nothing worse than having someone else, especially a relative stranger, invading your space.

Can you somehow fashion a voodoo doll?
Or maybe slip some laxatives into her food so you'll at least get a reprieve while she's locked on the loo for a few hours? Ps I am joking I'm not

LOliver123 · 18/06/2018 22:09

You will have to say something to her - or you will go completely crazy!

Hidingupstairs · 18/06/2018 22:08

Oh God now I sound crazy. It's just so cathartic to let it all out and not just be like 'yes! she's super! Great girl! We're very lucky!' which I am like to outside world.

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