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Parents opinions please. Would you go for this childminder?

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1Mumwhowingsit · 01/06/2018 14:07

Hi, I’m in the process of becoming a childminder and very nearly completed registration.
I am a nanny at the moment and love being able to give one to one attention to the baby and babywear and cook for him etc but I need to become a childminder so I can fit in work around my 2 young school aged children.

I’m wondering, as a parent you’d go for a childminder that only minded your child? I would offer home cooked food, would welcome cloth nappies and baby wearing etc. Would you pay extra for a childminder that didn’t have other mindees? obviously i would take baby to classes and meet with other childminders etc too.
Please let me know your thoughts. This is my first post, hoping I have made sense! Thank you

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Brown76 · 24/07/2018 07:01

I pay £15 an hour for ad-hoc nanny. This is flat fee, not per child. Works for me as I can book by the half day/hour and he will travel to me.

jannier · 06/06/2018 22:49

I can see that some parents like the idea of 1 to 1 for very young babies but commonly the argument for moving to nurseries is socialisation (one I don't buy into) I can see parents who like the exclusive attention for baby then saying off to nursery at 18 months so possibly a very short shelf life.
As a childminder you would have no job security with only one client and may find it hard to meet the needs of Ofsted and keep a family happy who may not have the principals of EYFS on their agenda.
I'm not quiet sure what the advantages would be for you (any childminder can babywear if they wish, use clothe nappies etc. But on £11 an hour before overheads, unfilled spaces etc your hourly rate would be less than minimum wage. few with 3 children bring in much more than minimum wage unless full 40 hours a week or more.
How far through training are you?

Maryann1975 · 06/06/2018 19:26

A childminder near me took on a child 3 days a week on the understanding that one of those days the child was the only one. It was great in the beginning, but the cm then had to start turning other families away, and she struggled to get anything else to fit in the remaining four days. The arrangement didn’t last long after those first few months as I recall. You might hit lucky though and find someone after what you offer and willing to pay for it. I guess it depends how many affluent families live near you-round me, I can’t imagine many would afford to pay £10 ph for childcare.

hibbledibble · 03/06/2018 19:29

Though if you were to offer flexible childcare you could ask for a higher rate. This wouldn't provide guaranteed income for you though. A lot of parents free lance and need as hoc childcare.

hibbledibble · 03/06/2018 19:28

Op where do you live? Even in London, many nannies earn £10ph. £11ph for a childminder is very, very expensive. You would also be more.comparable to a nanny with own child, as you will have your own children before and after school. Your rate doesn't sound reasonable at all.

Mymadworld · 03/06/2018 10:30

Well slightly going against the grain here, I would say it sounds like you live in the sort of area that this more bespoke service might work and I've seen it work.
Average price round me for cm is £5.50-6.50 and a friend of mine childminds and charges £8ph. She offers an ad-hoc/bespoke service on a PT basis. Her children are at private school and most of her minded children are siblings whose mum does gym/lunch etc for 3/4 hours during school hours much as you would at a crèche or pre-school.

WyfOfBathe · 01/06/2018 22:52

I like that my DC get to meet other children at the childminders. I went to a childminder myself from age 3-11, and I made good friends there. I called the other children who were there every day my "other family". DD2 especially does also get plenty of 1:1 time from the childminder.

When DD started going to the CM at 8 months old, I was a bit worried about her being surrounded by older kids who might be boisterous or leave small toys on the floor. I may have been willing to pay more for 1:1 care at that point, but I couldn't have afforded to pay £11/hour for more than the first few months.

DD1 (school age) and DD2 (toddler) go to different childminders because we couldn't find one locally with space for both. So around our way, you'd probably get business from people desperate for childcare even if they didn't care too much about your USP.

Mrsramsayscat · 01/06/2018 22:41

It might be a fraction expensive as you have to factor in that you are caring for two of your own as well. This child is one third.

However I wouldn't mind the extra children as long as mine was the youngest. As you'll know, as a nanny, it can be good for them to have older children around.

1Mumwhowingsit · 01/06/2018 22:31

Sorry I’m not answering everyone’s questions, I’m not being rude .. really appreciate everyone’s input. I’m on my phone and it’s not easy to remember all the posts, is there a way to reply to individual comments on the post?

I understand £11 an hour is a lot but where I live the average childminders rate is £7.50 not around £4 and nanny around £13/£15 per hour. Thank you 😊

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GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 01/06/2018 22:30

And what happens when they change hours at work? Need to swap days? Have a sibling?

Loandbeholdagain · 01/06/2018 22:29

Ah okay. I know someone doing ad hoc care, people book her in for a few hours or a day. It’s term time only, school day only.
She works as a self employed nanny though. So doesn’t have as many overheads. She mostly takes the children out but isn’t based at her home (if that makes sense).
Usually nannies have to be employed but if you are working for lots of families then you don’t.

1Mumwhowingsit · 01/06/2018 22:27

It wouldn’t necessarily just be one family full time. It could be parents who only work part time/parents who want a few hours to them selves. I don’t think I’m explaining myself very well, sorry!
It all sounds great in my head 😅
Thanks for all your comments

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Loandbeholdagain · 01/06/2018 22:26

Around here childminders are £4.50ph. So that would be a big price differential. I think you would be better off limiting to two families. That way you can charge less than nanny rates and parents get the advantage of not having to be the employer (which few would choose given the option). I would pay a bit more for 1:2 care say from £4.50 to £5.50 which with two children would be an hourly rate of £11.
Remember you will need to cover you business costs - professional memberships, insurance, first aid, possibly an accountant.

I think it’s a good idea though.

Xmasbaby11 · 01/06/2018 22:19

I wouldn't pay that much. Our cm is £4.10 ph and usually only has 3 or 4 kids. I couldn't afford that hourly rate even if I wanted to! I'd imagine you could get a nanny for that who would be at your house and do other chores.

Eastie77 · 01/06/2018 22:12

Ok well I wouldn't pay £11 since that is only £1 less than the gross hourly rate for a Nanny where I live. If, as you suggest, you position yourself as something slightly different than just a CM with an added useful service then perhaps. However what do you plan to do about your DC after school and during holidays, INSET days etc?

Slimtimeagain · 01/06/2018 21:20

£11 is pretty high. I'm a nanny and I'm on less than that for single family rate. Apologies.
Why don't you still keep it small but with 2 babies/ toddlers? You could still do all the babywearing stuff.
I work some nanny shares and am totally pro babywearing and the families split the cost.

InDubiousBattle · 01/06/2018 21:15

I think it sounds fantastic. I think a potential snag would be that I know parents often see a nanny as good value if you have siblings.

Agent13 · 01/06/2018 21:15

I’m not sure really - one of the things we’ve loved about the childminders we’ve used is the chance for DS to mix with lots of other local children of different ages! Him being the only mindee prob would put me off a bit to be honest.

NapQueen · 01/06/2018 21:14

Also, wouldnt most cloth nappy/babywearing mums take the full year off? And possibly go back pt?

NapQueen · 01/06/2018 21:13

£11ph for a Childminder?! Ours is £4.50ph for the youngest child, with older siblings £3ph. All food included.

3boys3dogshelp · 01/06/2018 21:12

No I wouldn’t pay £11 ph for a childminder sorry.
I think you may struggle with tax implications of only having one mindee and therefore only one person paying you too.

LorelaiVictoriaGilmore · 01/06/2018 21:06

One query - wouldn't you still have to be an employee of the parents legally? You will be working for them pretty much full time and being paid like an employee. Or is there a carve out if you are registered as a child minder?

Calphurnia · 01/06/2018 21:05

Where are your school aged children going to be after school? And school holidays? Presumably with you, in which case it's not one to one. So you can't charge the premium

Di11y · 01/06/2018 21:02

Would you collect the child from my house? I quite like the idea of not having to employ a nanny with the added complications.

GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 01/06/2018 20:54

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