Nanny wages? £450.00 per month??

I could if I ran off and got UK citizenship -- which I might just so I can vote against the twat.

I agree!

I dont demand that kind of salary, it is what was on offer around this area when i started here.

I think its a hell of alot for someone to pay out, there is tax and NI on top, and my boss is self employed which means she pays out twice as much.

however, she does it because she says I should earn what I do, she wants to ensure I'm on a higher bracket because she wants to.

I'm not going to argue with her!

The governemnt introduced tax breaks and vouchers, and I was a supporter of this and have been promoting it alongside nanny tax and PANN, however, it wasnt available for self employed people. So while my boss does earn god money, she cant claim anything back as shes self employed.

I was just defending my right to earn a good wage, thats all.

x-posted!

It really makes a difference if you get on with the family and you are right money isn't everything though if you are well paid it is a bonus. Continuity for the children is important and having someone you can trust is worth every penny in my book.

(but Eleusis COULD you vote at all?? )

Dont be mean to fifilou! just because she earns well! she probably deals with all the shite as well as all the nanny duties, works very long hours and has little time to herself.
it can be bloody hard putting up with any family's demands especially if you dont happen to agree with what they expect.
Even if the job is enjoyable its a hard slog!

Now, we all know that agencies (on whom nanny tax bases their survey) inflate salaries well beyond the real national average.

Someone who is currently a nanny in Greater London told me the other day that all of her nanny friends get at least some of their wages as cash in hand. Now, THAT would certainly never be advertised in an agency or on mumsnet. I don't believe for a second that the average nanny employer is reflected in the world of agency statistics.

Can someone tell me what £28,600 net is equal to in gross?

Fifi, when we have these debates it never about people thinking their nannies don't work hard and aren't wonderful. It is more about what real people can afford to pay for childcare.

There are a lot of jobs where no other form of childcare will allow us to perform well on the job. And I therefore really believe that nannies are not exclusively for the rich.

If you are able to command that kind of salary, then I am sure you are a lovely nanny. But, that doesn't mean that it is a realistic standard for a teacher in South Wales. A lot of professions make a lot less money than you do.

look at this!

www.nannytax.co.uk/news/wages0501.html

....and that was 2006.

I would just like to add that my friend has just returned to work as a nanny with the family she has been with for three years with her new baby and has only taken a pay cut of ten pounds per day (which was suggested by five top london nanny agencies.)

She earns 490 per week net.

hi yogimum,

Yes I'm live out.

I work 8-6 mon-fri, 2 nights a month inclusive babysits.

I get 6 wks a year holiday,(3 wks their choice,3 mine) and I have full use of a car.

The hours are never dead on though! I mostly finish late, but I'm understanding. Thats why its worked for so long!

also, I never tell them what to do, i only give advice when asked for it. Which has been often over the years.

They are fab parents, and great to work for. Its not about money, I would still be here if the wage was alot lower.

fifilou, are you a live-out nanny?

This is all getting very interesting!

I'm going to be doing an interview with the times next week about wages, so you can all see my picture and shout at the paper if it makes you cross!

Its a very touchy subject- one thats has been in the press lots lately!

I did an interview for the Independent last year too about the same thing.

I do think its awful that teachers dont earn as much or nurses, I understand completely, I worked as a nursery nurse for several years and earned £10,000 a year gross!

Its not fair to make judgements on me and my services as a nanny, asking why I deserve to earn what I do.

thank you yogimum,

every year I have a wage meeting with my family. They suggest what they are going to give me as a rise, and I never disagree.

I'm always happy with what they offer.

they talk to local agencies and other parents
so as I've already said, I'm not alone in earning this wage.

They have always said they dont want me to leave, they love the way I am with the children, the children love me and I them. I give so much to the family, I often work over my hours and rarey complain. Its about give and take, which is why I am still here after 7 years, and they are still happy.

I'm treated like a valued member of their family, I work very hard (I'm not going into details,but lets just say I've done soooooooo much over the years)

I deserve what I earn.

If one has employers who are making shedloads of money, paying their nanny £500 a week may not seem a lot to them . They obviously think she is worth it and want her to stay. I've been a nanny for a long time and I have never gone to work for a family and insist they do things my way.

ooooooooooooooooooh! way too heated for me!

come,come,now, I wasnt getting cross, I was just defending my right to earn a decent wage.

monkeys and nuts aside, we all work hard, I wasnt implying anything, i certainly dont want to offend anyone!

ok?

But, since you are so proud, why don't you tell us. What do you bring to the job that a nanny who charges half your rate doesn't bring to the job?

You have already mentioned seven years of experience. I'm not sure that is really such a perk. I like to hire nannies with only a year or two of experience because they are more willing to be trained for the role and less likely to tell me how things should be done.

So, what are you worth some -- what exactly is your gross salary? I went to the nannytax calculator to work it out but you are off the scale, as the highest rate it works out is £400 net per week.

fifilou

I agree with you! If you are live out you have to pay for everything just like everybody else. I earned £300 live in but included all my expenses, car, petrol, food etc. I got some other nice perks too!

You know, I'm happy to debate the issues of market rates, employer affordability, and what the job of a nanny is actually worth in financial terms. However, I must warn you that if throw around terms like monkeys and peanuts, you are really going to piss a lot of people off (including me).

Hey!

I'm not the only one around here on these wages you know?!

I work in a great area where the average wage ranges between 480-600 net per week.

Remember, I didnt start on this wage, neither did any of my nanny friends- we just stayed with the family and each year we got excellent pay rises. Around here a good nanny is hard to find (reliable, honest,trustworthy,educated......)
so they pay loyalty bouses in the wage increase.

Why shouldnt we earn a decent wage? Its a bloomin hard job, and one with great responsability! Are you suggesting that you would rather pay peanuts and employ a monkey?

Okay, so we are actually talking £9 per hour net in South Wales for a live out nanny share.

Sounds reasonable to me.

I live in Greater London, and would sooner vote for Gordon Brown than pay £550 net for a full time nanny.

i really should check my posts before I send them!

Typing isnt my strong point, its a good job its not my career! That last post was full of errors!

oops!

Its a fair wack yes, but I've worked hard for it though over 7 years!
My wage statred off fairly avaerage 7 years ago, then I got fab pay rises every year. My boss recognises that this job is a proffession, not just babysitting as many see it!

I also get work realted bonuses!

Its great!

Happy nanny = happy kids!