Can I really work from home with a nanny who brings her own daughter, or will the house be overrun with toddlers?

oh arse now I have LOST an apostrophe

fgs don't tell Greeny

Eleusis I believe if they want to drop in to nanny's house that is no problem (I often did it myself when working), but if the childcare is actually being supplied at the nanny's house on a regular basis then she needs to be registered as a c/m and have her premises inspected. It isn't nanny state gone mad, its for fairly obvious safety reasons.

We live in a 2 bedroom appartment and ds works form home a lot. On days I am home with ds, I either take ds out all day or dh decamps to the local coffee shop with wireless connection when he needs to do anything other than just check email etc.

It isn't practical for dh to work as ds just howls for him or runs into the bedroom (where dh works). Becasue there is no upstairs dh is much more visible so it makes him working when ds is there much harder.

Oranges I have done this during my phD but I think my work has suffered.

If I hadn't been heavily pg I would have got out of the house a lot more, but as it was I had to listen to 2 or 3 toddlers (2 not mine) careering shrieking around the house, also hearing your own child have tantrums and fights while nominally you should be totally detached from it is really hard. I would find myself at times getting annoyed with the nanny for not intervening enough, going out to sort it out myself and getting totally distracted. Also I got annoyed when I heard or found them all slumped in front of the telly!

You miss your dcs during the day and it's so easy to give into temptation and go out to chat for '5 minutes'....

Can you work in a library perhaps?

Surely if I employ live-out nanny and they want to go out, there is no law preventing her from going to her house with my kids. She is still my employee, and hence not free to offer her services to other children or set her own schedule (as a childminder would). If this is prevented in law, then I would say we have a case of nanny state (pardon the terrible pun) gone mad. And even if it is the case, who is going to know???? I don't see it really matters whether they are off to play group, swimming, or hanging out at nanny's house for a bit.

Personally, I think it will be a struggle. I have 2 toddler dses and a part time nanny (afternoons). I have just started working from home a bit and we are fortunate enough to have a very big house and massive garden. On the rare occasions that our nanny doesn't take the dses out it's really hard for me to get much work done, even if I shut myself away in my study. For example, if I go to make myself a cup of tea I get both dses clinging to my legs squealing "Mummy play" and then getting cross/upset when I go back to my study. I'm sure part of it is because I'm still a novice at it but I do find it much easier to get things done when they are out.

And a nanny is expensive - you have to employ them and are responsible for their tax and NI, holiday pay etc.

HTH.

To my knowledge, a CM can register to childmind in a home (it has to be a residential premises) other than the one in which personally reside.
An example of this would be a nanny share where it involves 3 different families all joining together for childcare at one location.

But this is now going a bit off topic... as for Oranges a lot of the trouble is lack of space I feel.

god that could work then

in many ways i'd rather have someone with their own kid AND a bit of experience (I am hoping thats not a shooting comment)

Filly if the nanny is bringing her own child to work you will not be paying full price

yes it is certainly something a nanny would consider

you can't get a childminder to work in your home, that would make them a nanny

(not quite sure what you are on about with the c/m thing)

As it is only 2 days per week, as the nursery is across the road, and as you are starting a new business... I really think nursery is your best option.

Once you are settled in your new business, once you have moved home to somewhere bigger, then you can rethink childcare (as new home may not be very close to a nursery, and your business requirements may mean that you want more than 2 days childcare).

i want childcare but am picky and can't afford a nanny

i thought this might keep the costs down plus give dcs a playmate

oh there must be a way round the storage issues, how about one of those pocket highchairs? or get a small table and chairs,you will end up with one eventually anyway

re the double buggy-you can get some that fold up quite small. i have a hoxton , it folds pretty small. marcosky is small folded also

ok thread hijack for francoise etc

is this something that a nanny might consider, do you reckon?

(latest installment in Filly's Childcare Crisis-get it here)

I would say the benefits of your child being in your home, in a home environment and where you can be at hand (if you want to) and having a relationship with one carer and another child would far outweigh the benefits of having lots of toys to play with for a one year old.
I got a second hand buggy for £40 by the way

oh god you see I'd quite like an arrangement like this (trying not to say orangement-in daft mood). bascially a CM but working from my house.

any lentil weavers in cardiff take note please

In answer to the OP - yes, its perfectly possible if she is good at her job.

why not phone your local council to ask advice on the local going rate to pay?

You can get a cheap double buggy on ebay for probably about £50, which is nothing reltive to your childcare costs.

However, something else to consider is wear and tear on your flat and the mess they make. If your DS goes to nursery, he will leave his mess there and mark on their walls when he runs off with a crayon.

Can the nanny come round to collect your daughter and go back to her house? You could buy the double buggy and she could ttake it back home with her (if she has space).

When looking at the wage treat this as a nanny share. I would probably offer her about 60-70% of the going rate. Although, as she is live out, you will have to pay her at least minimum wage.

Someone typed that you would have to pay holiday and sick pay. You do need to give her holiday, but sick pay can be SSP which isn't very much.

Coming in late to the thread so not sure if anybody has mentioned the practicalities of how the nanny is going to get two one-year olds out of the house, to the park, playgroup etc? Do you have a double buggy or are you anticipating buying one? Do you have the room to store it?

Oranges, I'm watching with interest, as I'm planning to do something similar 2 days a week,

I'm bf so being far away from dd2 isn't an option, but in any case I like the idea of being able to have lunch with them and take a break from work - essential when concentrating hard.

Possibly helps that I'm stone deaf, Pink Floyd could be playing live in the kitchen and I wouldn't know.

Earplugs?