Advice needed re part-time nanny's holiday pay

Im with an agency at the mo, so Im working with them here and there in the weeks.Their nanny has been ill and is just recovering. I only been with them for a week, but I like them and get on with the kids, so i'd rather just wait to be honest. Ill prob go office agencies get temp work as they always have laodsa work

Are you looking for other jobs while you sit and wait? You should. If they can't give you a date I'd say the job isn't exaactly a firm offer.

yeh im gonna make sure i get evrything in writing, a contract and what it will include etc. I emailed them today, their previous nanny hasn't told them when she is leaving yet, bit annoying, soon as she has left, I can start. In the meantime Iv'e just gotta sit and wait.

I get 20 days and bank holidays and no extra days off. But in other jobs have had more it just depends really. Definately get everything sorted in a contract before you start.

Nannying is the same as any other employment. Some employers give better terms than others.

Having worked in the retail sector, I can confirm that it is perfectly normal to not get holiday over the Christmas period - I used to get Christmas Day and Easter Sunday off, as the retail store in which I worked was legally not allowed to trade those day. Everything else was by prior agreement with manager and was taken from holiday entitlement.

As has already been said, as you are working 4 days per week, you would get 16 days holiday per year, at present. Your employer may or may not give you bank holidays off in addition to those 16 days.

don't really know much about it just yet, as i was only temporary for a week, gotta wait till i start permanently. With nanny do u get it bit more easier with holidays or not? I dnt mind going on hols with a week unpaid newayz if i went over. Would this 20 days include xmas then, like in a normal employment

Ah, you actually can expect 4 weeks. And since you are on a four day week it will be sixteen days for you.

If they pay you for bank hols, they can legally count them towards your holiday entitlement. Most people don't, but some do.

Daisy, in Nannying 20 days plus bank holidays is pretty average though some Employers don't give Bank holidays.

You have to sort it out when you sort your contract.

sorry I get ahead of myself and just go into un-english mode. Iv'e not started with them properly yet, so i haven't got anything at the moment. I was just wondering how it gets worked out with the hols etc.Do you get more hols than you would in a normal 9-5 job. Ill be working 8-6 monday- thursday

First and foremost... PLEASE type in English.

It should be in your contract. Do you have one?

You should get bank holidays off (probably but not necessarily paid).

If the family asks you not to come to work, they should pay you anyway.

If you are unavailable for work you should take (paid) holiday or other appropriate leave (i.e. sick leave for SSP or possibly paid -- I pay sick leave but put SSP in the contract for a safety net)

I don't EVER pay double time. Not during "unsociable" hours, not on bank holidays, not for any reason. (although my nanny doesn't work bank holidays)

if ure a f.time nanny, ru suppose to get paid then wen your away and obv wen they r away the family. Not started properly yet i was just wondering, so do you get bank hols day off aswell, wot if they asked you to work those bank hols, do u get paid doubled, or normal?

28 days of hols?!?! Is that REALLY necessary? Well, I did read that includes the bank hols. So, if you give 20 days plus bank hols then there is no change for you.

I feel that you providing 5 weeks holiday entitlement (thus 10 days as it's pro-rata) and adding a clause such that 5 days are of the nannies choice, and 5 days are your choice, then that should cover it, especially if you are also giving paid time off for bank holidays in addition to those 10 days.

I go with what Eleusis has posted, except for the bit about Bank Holidays.

I am not convinced as yet that an employee can insist on having Bank Holidays off (regardless of the pay situation). For example, TSSA say "Only bank workers themselves are entitled to bank holidays. For all other workers there is no automatic right to take bank or public holidays as paid or unpaid leave. Any right to do so depends on the terms of your contract."
Anyone know any legislation that states if employees have any rights to taking bank/public holidays off? An employee can certainly ask for it off, but as I see it, the employer can refuse.

This may all change towards the end of this year... see DTI: Holiday Entitlement which if it goes ahead will see holiday entitlement rise to 28 days by end of 2008.

I don't think I'm that nice - she only has 8 days leave officially (plus Xmas) which is less than you're offering! But yes, I think she ends up with a good amount of paid time off.

All Nannies are mad in a way, have to be!

Can't really put the legal position better than eleusis but I'll add my tuppence anyway...
i am employing a nanny two days a week. She has four weeks paid leave plus Xmas week (so 5 in effect); also paid bank holidays.
The issue about who chooses what holidays and how to avoid paying for endless extra weeks holiday when you are away is a tricky one. In my contract I stated that the nanny can choose 2 weeks holiday and we will choose 2. In reality, we will be away for at least 5 weeks, all of which will be paid (I really don't think you can get away with this being unpaid leave - she is available for work after all). The nanny can either choose to align her holidays with ours, which will be nice for us, or she can take an additional 2 weeks when she chooses. She seemed happy with this arrangement, which I think is a compromise between allowing the nanny some choice of holiday whilst not ending up with 10 weeks paid holiday...
hope that helps!

We are going to be very sad when current nanny leave. She promised DD that she would come back in a month or so and take her to Legoland. (DD is easily bribed)

Yeah, Jura, big old softie... and they still leave.