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Childminder's holidays

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cjm10979 · 25/07/2017 11:22

I toyed with the idea of putting this in AIBU, but thought I would get more relevant responses here.

We have a childminder to look after 2 DDs, one school age, one pre-school. I have known her for some time and is a good childminder with no complaints generally over the last few years of using her.

Around 85% of the children she regularly looks after are of school age. All the clients have different hours/days for the care, so no one family's requirements are exactly the same.

We have an all year contract and up to 6 weeks holiday for either side (some others do have term time only and pay a higher rate accordingly). During holidays for either party she charges 0.5 the usual rate. The problem is that the childminder mainly takes her holidays in term term. Her children are teenagers, 1 is about to go to uni and they get the grandparents to stay in their house when they are way. Our relatives are not close by/have their own health issues so we are not able to do the same when she goes on holiday. Additionally, some of the other clients are foreigners with no family in this country, so it's difficult for them to do the same.

I understand that she needs to take holidays and it not an issue with the 0.5 rate, it's just that we have to take holiday in term time to cover hers. Then we have hardly any holiday left ourselves to take as a family. We can only have 2 weeks & 1 day off together this year. I don't think we we be able to both take time off around xmas as we won't have enough. She is going on a 10 consecutive day holiday in September.

How do other childminders deal with this? I do think she is taking the piss a bit, given that 85% of the children & almost all the families will have at least 1 school aged child.

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Ninjapants · 25/07/2017 11:51

You're being very selfish just because it doesn't suit you. If your childminder were to take time off in the school hols how would the other working parents cover it? It's not that easy to get two weeks off in July/August when everyone you work with wants to take holidays too.
I suggest you either look into taking some unpaid parental leave if possible, or consider alternative childcare arrangements to cover her holidays.

ElizabethShaw · 25/07/2017 11:47

Her terms are that she will take 6 weeks holiday when she chooses - she hasn't agreed to take them when it suits you and then gone back on that. Setting terms for her business that suits her and her family is in no way taking the piss.

My 3 year olds preschool doesn't provide meals for reasons that suit them. It would be more convenient for me if they did provide meals. But that doesn't mean they are taking the piss.

There's nothing to stop you finding another childcare provider if this one doesn't meet your needs.

cjm10979 · 25/07/2017 11:46

Snap8thecat, exactly it doesn't say when the days are to be taken. But it doesn't take a genius to work out this is not going to suit the majority of your clients. It doesn't make good business sense to piss off your clients.

You know very well that it is easier said than done to find CMs for ad hoc days that pick up from a particular school. However, a cm is more likely to know other CMs who might be able to help.

My husband now wants to ditch her, because her business model is not working for us. That is our choice, if we choose to do it. We instead would be looking for someone who will take the majority of holidays in school holiday time. Notice i'm not saying all, so I'm prepared to be flexible.

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ChickenBhuna · 25/07/2017 11:40

Wow.

Do all employees think they own their childminder?

I suppose you think teachers and TAs get too long off each year too?

Why can't you organise cover for when she is having her leave?

HunterHearstHelmsley · 25/07/2017 11:37

She's going to do what's best for her family as you're doing what is best for yours. Easiest thing to do would be to try and take your holidays together when she takes hers.

Or find another child minder.

Snap8TheCat · 25/07/2017 11:36

And it's not her job to get a substitute, it's yours. So why don't you?

Snap8TheCat · 25/07/2017 11:36

Ah so pp is not mistaken then.

It doesn't say in the contract WHEN she will take her holidays.

So it doesn't say she'll take 50% in school holidays?!

cjm10979 · 25/07/2017 11:32

Elizabethshaw, you are mistaken. It doesn't say in the contract WHEN she will take her holidays. It just says up 6 weeks. I agree she can take up to 6 weeks holiday, however I do think she is taking the piss not to have most of the holidays (>50%) in school holiday time. I wouldn't mind so much if she could get a substitute to cover her holidays for a similar rate.

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Snap8TheCat · 25/07/2017 11:31

Gosh I'm struggling to understand why she's taking the piss? Taking annual leave when she chooses, even if not convenient to you, is not taking the piss. She will inconvenience somebody, whenever she chooses. Why would she choose annual leave at a time not convenient to her own family circumstances.

ElizabethShaw · 25/07/2017 11:25

I don't see how it is taking the piss for a business to set their own terms - you agreed to them Confused

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