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As a parent, would you find this too bossy?

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Snap8TheCat · 14/06/2017 21:54

I'm a well established childminder and when a new family starts with me I provide them with a pack of my policies and procedures and all the forms I need completing.

I'm thinking of adding a page to iron out little niggles that invariably crop up. Things like, please name clothing, don't drop off early without prior arrangement, i prefer nappies instead of pull ups, no lace up shoes etc etc

It's all worded very friendly but firmly. I feel it's better to air these things before they become a problem and I have to find a way of bringing it up.

However I'm dithering over whether to include it or not. Parents, what do you think?

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InDubiousBattle · 16/06/2017 14:04

That's a lot of putting on of shoes mememe! My friends dresses her ds in cloth nappies, dungarees and lace ups- he looks adorable but it takes her a full 10 minutes to change his nappy! Her mum looks after him whilst she works but I think a cm would really struggle.

memememe · 16/06/2017 13:58

on the subject of laces re velcro, imagine this trip out (which i do at least once a week with 3 unders 5's) children arrive at mine (take of shoes going to abbreviate to TOS) play/breakfast etc time to go out (POS; put on shoes) get to farm go into soft play (tos) finished soft play go to see animals (pos) play in out side play area (tos to empty out sand pos) repeat. children want to jump on the bouncy pillows (tos...pos) back in to soft play (tos pos) then home (tos) children play out side we have free flow so they come and go as they like (pos/tos several times) dinner (tos) home time (POs) now times that by 3 and thats a lot of laces to do up. and thats not even the times they have just come undone. velcro all the way!!

op i think if you can write in a faq way it might come across better than a list of bullet points. good luck

Snap8TheCat · 16/06/2017 07:16

Thanks, I've sent you a PM.

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HSMMaCM · 16/06/2017 03:41

OP I'm more than happy to read anything you like 👍

catkind · 15/06/2017 23:57

I totally get velcro shoes, and was happy to be flexible with mealtimes, naptimes, most things really.

Pull-ups though worked well for DD who was an enthusiastic potty user by the time she started going to CM at 1. Her CM was fine with that, I'm not sure we'd have chosen one who wasn't however lovely generally.

So I think if you have any sticking points that may be unexpected - it sounds like nappies/pullups may be one such - definitely discuss before agreeing a space. Having a standard information sheet that you send out with contracts etc would be a good idea too, so it's in writing before they've signed anything. I think DD's CM had something like that.

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Willow2017 · 15/06/2017 23:23

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No we are not in a rush 'all the time' butr at certain times of the day we need to be out the door on time, not faffing around with skinny jeans, boots and pull ups for 3 or more kids.

Its not difficult to understand. I think some people are genuinely being awkward and misdirecting what the OP and some of us other child carers are saying. Just to have a pop at someone who dared to say that they might ask parents to think about someone else other than their own kid/own selves.

5OBalesofHay · 15/06/2017 23:13

How many children fo childminders have to have to make a living? Sounds like they are at a rush all the time. Are childminders a lot cheaper than nursery?

jannier · 15/06/2017 22:58

I must change up to 15 nappies a day...in the house, in the toddler group, in the car and often on my lap. Children at toddler groups have shoes on in my house they don't. I possibly have one nappy a week that the leg accidently slips off one foot if that. While you change the baby you talk to him count tickle and be fun exactly as its been done for years ....but if you use nappy pants and plan to use pull ups how on earth is baby supposed to know the difference?
In the past we were shown how to change nappies by our families and sometimes midwives what a shame nobody does it now if all these parents are struggling so much it really is so easy. My mum was in a wheel chair and even she managed to do it.
When you have children to get to school who are not yours no way can you spend 10 minutes changing a dirty nappy that hits you as your about to leave stripping off converse skinny jeans etc and putting them back on again ...and surely if baby kicks off their trousers in a nappy change they would just as easily get a leg out of pants? Save the nappy pants for home and buy your cm a pack of nappies costs the same so what's the problem?
I personally add to my list that I don't use Sippy cups all mine go from bottle to open cup and free flow drinks. But I do explain my reasons for asking for things such as part of Ofsted requirement is school readiness which includes self dressing so please send your Lo in loose fitting trousers that they can pull up themselves and Velcro shoes that they can help to put on.....
To those saying a cm is lazy for not tying shoes actually most cms spend longer supporting the children to put on their own shoes and have to encourage parents to take more time and not rush into doing it themselves. Most 2 year old can do this and put on their own coats with many managing the zip but I struggle to stop my parents automatically doing it because they are in a rush.

InDubiousBattle · 15/06/2017 22:39

Added a 2 there, only one almost 2 year old!

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MoominFlaps · 15/06/2017 22:34

Supermarkets, doctors surgeries, toddler groups, children's centres?

Supermarkets and doctors surgeries no but I never change his nappies there as he poos morning and evening and I change him before we go out

Toddler groups are always no shoes. As is nursery!

InDubiousBattle · 15/06/2017 22:32

You can rip the side to get the dirty nappy off but you need to take off shoes and pants to put a fresh one on. This takes longer, longer still with lace up shoes. If you have two or three kids in nappies who all poo during, say a toddler group the extra time changing one is time that the others are either watched by someone else or roaming around a toilet/baby change room. Having my 2 almost 2 year old roaming around a toilet is not ideal!

Willow2017 · 15/06/2017 22:31

Moomin

Yes but thats in your house, in a cm house all the childrem will not be running around without shoes and socks on, other kids will happily have their nappy changed without kicking off their trousers.

Using a nappy just minimises the time needed to change them. Pulling down skin tight jeans, taking of gimicky trainers and boots then putting them all back on again does take time if you have 3 or 4 kids all the same who need changing after lunch before you go and pick up another child/take them home etc.

And pull ups do not usually help with potty training anyway. Its too easy just to pee in them and not let on!

Intransige · 15/06/2017 22:29

Oh you rip the sides! Ahhhhhh.

Sorry to slightly derail. As you were, everyone.

Snap8TheCat · 15/06/2017 22:27

HSMM you seem to get where coming from! Would you mind if I copy and pasted my draft for you to have a read and make any suggestions?

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InDubiousBattle · 15/06/2017 22:23

Eh? You take your ds's shoes off whenever you go indoors? Supermarkets, doctors surgeries, toddler groups, children's centres?

MoominFlaps · 15/06/2017 22:23

Sorry HS, I meant the op.

HSMMaCM · 15/06/2017 22:20

Apologies if you thought I was rude. I have changed hundreds of nappies without undressing the child.

Also, to the other poster, OP wasn't asking if her requests are reasonable, she was just asking for advice about the best way to tell parents.

MoominFlaps · 15/06/2017 22:11

Still doesn't make sense to me I'm afraid as I have to undress my DS from the waist down if I put him a nappy - if I pull his trousers down to the knees he just kicks them off.

If we are anywhere indoors he's always in socks or barefoot so I don't have to take his shoes off either.

But you carry on being rude by all means.

Calyrical · 15/06/2017 22:10

I really, honestly can't quite understand your motivation for posting, OP.

You are right. You are convinced you are right, and anyone who might not be right is both stupid and it is heavily implied, "not lovely." You are successful and when you explain to your parents the standards that must be adhered to before a tiny foot steps over your revered threshold they bow down at your superiority.

So why post? To smugly state how wonderful you are?

Snap8TheCat · 15/06/2017 22:06

Thanks HSMM! Why a parent needs a step by step instruction as to why they are different is beyond me!

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Calyrical · 15/06/2017 22:05

Good grief OP.

HSMMaCM · 15/06/2017 22:05

To put a pull up on, a child has to he undressed from the waist down. To put a napoy on, it's just trousers pulled down, nappy on, pull trousers up. No messing around with shoes or anything. Much quicker.

Pull ups aren't needed for toilet training either, but if a parent particularly wanted to use them, I would.