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NannyCam and our Male Nanny (Manny)

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foursacrowd · 18/03/2007 12:06

NannyCam and our Male Nanny (Manny):
Well, the brief story is that ATM we have a male nanny, since the difficult arrival of DD. Excellent references, married and a clear background check. No problems on the face of it, but we were curious to see what he was doing with our DS2 and DD1 every day.
A friend of mine put together two tiny camera systems that activated when someone came into the room, and we hid it one downstairs and one in the children's bedroom. They were in for about 6 weeks, and DH and I watched highlights in the evenings.
What we saw was a days packed with love and activity, total attention and consistency. It had never even entered our mind about the possibility for any perversion on his part, so it came as no surprise that we had not employed a Paedophile, contrary to many of the stereotypes on mumsnet! We also discovered why the house is sometimes a bombsite, he prefers to direct his attentions to our DS and DD rather than domestics (which he can do to perfection).
So here is the problem. I feel guilty as hell that I thought to do this, especially as I have seen truly outstanding work that I really did not appreciate beforehand. But where do I go from here? I now value him more than ever, but feel that I have betrayed the trust relationship. Should I tell him? My DH also now feels aquard talking to him, maybe something to do with his insecurities.
What did we expect to see, and why did we do it? I don't know. Everything was perfect before, but it has turned into one big f**K up.
Any thoughts greatly welcomed!

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daisy26 · 20/03/2007 21:57

agree with u nogoes,people are old enough to decide wether they should be doing this that and the other,if there were inclines and strange things goin on then i wudnt be saying anything, it's the fact people r doing this when they dnt flipping need to

nogoes · 20/03/2007 21:33

Don't tell him unless you want him to leave. I can't believe you did it. If you had any doubts you should never have employed him. To invade someones privacy like that makes me feel quite sick actually.

ednamode · 20/03/2007 21:33

for whom Scottish thistle certainly not for the child.
tooooooooo many children who have been traumatised adults can mend children not so easy surprised i had to advise you of that

ScottishThistle · 20/03/2007 21:30

I feel if you have/had any serious concerns or worries about a Nanny you should get rid!

Camera's are so wrong!

simplycontrolfreaky · 20/03/2007 21:29

no but edna what do you REALLY think?

ednamode · 20/03/2007 21:27

fours a crowd
Please note
your child is your prime concern. Should things have gone wrong then the political correct types on this thread who are critizing you, would have professed profound sympathy for your situation some of them may have been outraged by what had bappend to you and wrote and told you so BUT.........................................at the end of the day, may be the week, they will return to their lives and carrying on as normal, whilst you on the other hand, are left to clear up the mess, which could last a long long time. So my advice to you is *K the politically correct and the politically outraged, feel no guilt and focus on number 1 your child/children

Best wishes

daisy26 · 20/03/2007 21:22

hahahahahaha

simplycontrolfreaky · 20/03/2007 21:01

that's MUCH better (daisy)
foursa crowd...... maybe he did know all about the cameras??....... mwa ha ha ha ha.

daisy26 · 20/03/2007 20:54

yeh it's late i'm tired and the end doesn't make sense.

daisy26 · 20/03/2007 20:52

lighten up{shock} i wouldn't be too impressed if a family had filmed me,so people would be fine if they were filmed mmmm? It annoys me because people are putting behind bars when they r innocent, also people try to catch people out.

quietmouse · 20/03/2007 11:13

lol at 'weirdy weirdy do you wear crocs'

I think it was a terrible thing you did. An invasion of his privacy. Really, really awful.

Why on earth would you want to tell him now though? he would probably leave in a shot and could also take action against you.

Get over what you have done. Don't take it out on him. Just live and learn to respect others a litte bit more.

ScottishThistle · 20/03/2007 10:56

If an employer of mine ever filmed me without my consent I'd leave in a second!

Ellaroo · 20/03/2007 08:18

I can see exactly why you did it...but I'd never tell him. Wipe it from your memory and get on with enjoying that you can leave your children with confidence. Don't alleviate your own guilt by burdening him with it - he doesn't need to know.

Eleusis · 20/03/2007 08:11

Oh, lighten up, Daisy.

And learn to type in English.

daisy26 · 19/03/2007 17:59

how wud people like it, if the nannies put cameras around in hiding places where u culdn't see them,and the parents were being filmed, how wud u feel and not knowing that ure being watched. dnt really think it's a laughing matter,mean people r gettn accused of all things now and quite a few have been innocent

Eleusis · 19/03/2007 09:03

So, how much for the cameras?

(just kidding)

zippitippitoes · 19/03/2007 07:39

I'm surprised the op had these cameras in for 6 weeks and carried on watching them back that is an awfully long time..

I would have thought a couple of days more than enough to satisfy your curiosity

unless you were hoping to "catch him"

daisy26 · 18/03/2007 21:16

this wasn't fair and not nice in my books but to lie to him you will just feel guilty ( i hope )all the time, wouldn't u rather just get it off ure chest, and be done with it and expect the worse. But i thought that's what CRBs are for did u not get him to do this and they r helpful if they get one every year, he can ease people times

daisy26 · 18/03/2007 21:08

Some people would think this is wrong and not fair, i'd be quite upset if i found out a family was watching me and ddin tell or aske me first. Fair enough u wanted to know wot they were doing, u cud of asked him? thought it was all abt trust if u suspected something wasn't right then tht's different

TeacherTed · 18/03/2007 20:40

Hmmm, topical post.

I am an established Manny who, for the record, doesn't appear to be the one in question here. Both and upstairs and downstairs at the home ? yes; two delightful children ? yes; of that age?...no, so not me!

Whilst I would be very angry if I discovered I was subject to 'covert surveillance' without my knowledge, I don't believe that any of my practice would show grounds for concern. So I, whilst uncomfortable with the covert nature, would actually be relatively at ease with such an undertaking.

Foursacroud, you asked for thoughts:
Whilst you have clearly overstepped the mark here, both you and your DH should hold yourselves safe in the knowledge that you have employed a dedicated individual who can serve only as a credit to other men in this profession. The decision to tell him lies with your conscience, although undoubtedly you may loose his services if you ?spill the beans?. However, your honesty in bringing such a subject to this message board is at the very least partly commendable .

edam · 18/03/2007 20:35

Don't say anything and pray you are never discovered. Horrid way to behave but what's done is done. If he finds out, he'll be out of there as soon as he can, I think, entirely justifiably.

chocolateface · 18/03/2007 20:34

I used to be a Nanny and if I'd found out I'd been watched (and not trusted) I don't think I could have stayed in the job.A much better way to check up on your nanny is to pop home unexpectedly, or get a relative to drop by.Let this be a lesson to others. I reckon giving him a pay rise would alleviate your guilt.

foxinsocks · 18/03/2007 20:21

this must be a wind up surely?

how extraordinary to spy on him during the day AND that you and dh watched the highlights for SIX weeks before you thought it might be morally questionable??!!

(also, and I'm not poking fun at you because my spelling/grammar is atrocious, but 'aquard' has to be the best spelling of awkward I've ever seen!)

Judy1234 · 18/03/2007 20:17

No. It is the view of the Information Commissioner as to the effect of the Data Protection Act 1998. Some people might want to take a view that that interpretation is wrong but the Code could be used against you court and most people choose not to ignore Government guidance on legislation. If there is a huge load of money at stake sometimes it is worth it and you might want to bring a test case.

Having said all this hardly anyone is prosecuted so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Ladymuck · 18/03/2007 19:54

I thought that the code of practice was voluntary though?