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Any childminders around who DOESNT use their own house to childminder from?

32 replies

2anddone · 16/04/2017 19:39

Hi :)
I am in the process of re-registering as a cm. The only thing that is putting me off is the fact my house will no longer be my home and more a place of business (baby things/toys back out, stair gates/equipment back out not to mention the certificate and OFSTED paraphernalia that needs to be on display during working hours!
My friend has offered me his empty house which he no longer lives into cm from, this would mean I would arrive before minders in morning and come home in the evening to a 'baby free' environment where I can switch off!
My question is in the eyes of OFSTED would this even be allowed to do under the registering as a cm on domestic premises on the compulsory register (would have under 8's as well as over as planning to work term time only)
Any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you :)

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jannier · 19/04/2017 13:24

To be a child-minding premises it must be somebodies home we had a local cm who moved care from her home to an empty house and it caused loads of issues as she was then classed as non domestic premises and working as a nursery and planning became involved. The latest change in rules did mean you could operate from somewhere else for a few hours a day but not as your main place of business.....you can however use an outbuilding like a garden room in your garden providing it is suitable.

NapQueen · 16/04/2017 22:19

GrinGrin

And thanks Snap

organixeveryday · 16/04/2017 22:15

Calm down everyone!!

NapQueen · 16/04/2017 22:09

Just adding a quick "sorry" to 2anddone here for derailing her thread - I hope you get the correct advice you need from whoever knows their stuff. And good luck with the vebture.

Snap8TheCat · 16/04/2017 22:09

Fine. I apologise. Really I do. Flowers I genuinely wasn't trying to 'target' you.

NapQueen · 16/04/2017 22:07

I honestly do not mind being told Im wrong. Genuinely. As your response to me yesterday didnt even register as negative - I made a comment, you said my comment was wrong. Case closed. However it was the "every bit of advice I see you give is incorrect" makes it sound like I just swan around MN making crap up about all sorts of topics.

Yukbuck · 16/04/2017 22:06

I just feel like you didn't need to quote back to a previous thread. The way you said 'every bit of advice you give is incorrect' makes a dig at nap. When each thread is a separate topic. It makes it seem like nap comments on lots of threads and is always incorrect. I thought mn etiquette was not to target posters on separate threads.

Yukbuck · 16/04/2017 22:04

I found your previous post too Nap (purely being nosey)
I think it was the under 3 part. You are right about the under 3 (only allowed 3) but I think it's actually 3 pre schoolers rather than 3 under 3. (Don't quote me though)

Snap8TheCat · 16/04/2017 22:04

That's right. That's every bit I've seen! What exactly is incorrect about my statement?

Look, I'm sorry people don't like being told they're wrong. I happen to know my job and it's statutory guidance quite well. It would be daft not to point out incorrect information given to someone who has started a thread to ask.

NapQueen · 16/04/2017 22:02

Maybe shes only ever seen me give two bits of advice Grin yuk

NapQueen · 16/04/2017 22:01

Ok. Ive located my previous comment on the ratio thread. As I understand (and as I said, as is the comments Ive had made to me by two CMs), Ofsted do not have a limit on mindees aged 8+. Ofsted must be satisfied that the care given to all children isnt hindered by the number of 8+s you have, but there is not an actual official figure given by them of how many 8+yos a minder can have at one time.

Is that incorrect?

Yukbuck · 16/04/2017 21:59

Nap queen, you're not a cm and every bit of advice I see you give is incorrect! snap... you said the above and then you said it was just a post yesterday and today.

NapQueen · 16/04/2017 21:54

I may have to go and look at my own previous posts then as you seem to have a better recollection of them than me. Any ratio info is based on what my own CM works by, and my CM mother.

Probably best if I just refrain from ever commenting on a CM thread again. And maybe give snap a swerve generally.

NuffSaidSam · 16/04/2017 21:53

To be fair to Snap, this is of course an open forum and anyone can post on any topic/subject, but it's quite unhelpful to post incorrect advice. Mumsnet becomes useless if it's just a collection of misinformation.

I could go and post on the living overseas category about life in Yemen, but I won't because I don't know anything about it...

Also, it's easy to remember other users if you're here regularly. It doesn't amount to bullying or stalking, just having a memory!

Maryann1975 · 16/04/2017 21:51

I am fascinated to know what other incorrect information ive given out on other threads seeing as this is the first time youve ever commented on my posts.
napqueen I've been on another thread recently where you have given out incorrect advice about childminding (at least it's incorrect in England) so snap is correct there and has corrected you before.

I agree that my registration as a childminder means I work from a domestic property. You can be a childminder from non domestic properties but from a parents point of view I guess that becomes more of a small nursery.

Snap8TheCat · 16/04/2017 21:41

I haven't gone back and looked at any of her posts. I commented on one other thread yesterday where she gave advice about ratios. Her username I remembered as I quoted her name when I replied.

No searching or stalking of napqueen has been done. I just remembered one post yesterday.

Snap8TheCat · 16/04/2017 21:40

I wasn't talking about the additional costs you pointed out. I explained my issue in my previous post.

And I completely agree it's a forum where everyone can join in with the questions and topics raised. Of course that's allowed and rightly so. Equally I am allowed to point out when incorrect advice has been given. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that.

Yukbuck · 16/04/2017 21:39

I read your post, snap, as telling nap that all the advice in her post was incorrect. Which I was cross about.

But the fact you've actually said that she's incorrect on all her posts is just horrible and, in my opinion, verging on bullying. She is free to give advice as are we all. And to go back and look at other posts are just horrible.

2anddone · 16/04/2017 21:36

Thanks for the advice, I will look at plan B instead as hadn't considered the extra higher outgoings such as council tax!!

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NapQueen · 16/04/2017 21:34

No I am not a CM. Nor have I ever claimed to be one.

I am fascinated to know what other incorrect information ive given out on other threads seeing as this is the first time youve ever commented on my posts.

Posts on MN are not only open to experts in their respective fields. This is an open forum for anyone who wishes to offer a (hopefully) helpful comment. I grew up in the home of a CM who still works as one. I would never claim to know the intricacies of the job, however it doesnt need a CM to point out that there would be additional costs involved to the OPs suggested way of running her business.

I used the word personal to mean exactly what it means. Personal. You made a comment about me specifically as a MN user not only on this thread but apparently on every thread Ive ever left a comment or suggestion on. Like you in some way know, or went and looked, at what I post.

Snap8TheCat · 16/04/2017 21:32

And I'll just clarify, I'm talking about the fact that the OP asked if she can CM from an empty house, with nobody calling it their home address. Nap queen replied that she was 'almost certain' that it would be fine and I'm saying that no, someone has to be living there, even if it's not the OP otherwise the she can only register as childcare on non-domestic premises.

Snap8TheCat · 16/04/2017 21:29

No it's not.

Yukbuck · 16/04/2017 21:28

Actually snap I think a lot of what nap is saying is potentially correct.

Snap8TheCat · 16/04/2017 21:27

Are you a childminder?

I am being neither aggressive or personal (whatever that means). I'm sorry you feel I am.

However I am justified in saying your advice here (and on other threads) is incorrect.

cheminotte · 16/04/2017 21:27

It may be technically legal, but as pp says it doesn't sound like a childminders to me.