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Nanny vs Nursery final decision thoughts and experiences ?!

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Annie105 · 23/01/2017 00:01

Hi all I posted a couple of months ago at the start of my childcare search journey and need some help trying to make a final decision!

I've just finished wrapping up the last nanny/childminder interviews this weekend and have narrowed it down to one really great and experienced nanny and one childminder who is available to come to my home to do the morning routine (on her own with no charges) and also the nursery drop off. I was going to try and extend my Mat leave as the nursery didn't have a place available in time but this week they emailed to say they had a drop out of the baby room and could offer a place when I need it. And then of course we had already interviewed this nanny who we both really liked and the decision turmoil commenced!

So dilemma is now what the hell do we do?

I'm trying to follow my gut instinct but it's all churned up with the emotion of leaving my baby at all but I must return to work at least for a year for financial reasons.

The nursery is really sweet and I have a friend whose baby daughter is there and she seems happy but she is a much more outgoing baby than mine. Mine tends to go very quiet in larger social settings and gets quite timid. Even at a young age you can sort of identify traits. However she did say her key worker has changed already and she does find her daughter is so exhausted from a full day there (she finds it hard to nap in the nursery and keeps getting colds) that her sleeping at night has got worse over time. The childminder pick up would help alleviate the stress of getting to work in the morning on time without rushing him to nursery 5 minutes before it opens but again it's a long day there at the nursery from 8-6.30. The childminder could come to mine in morning get him ready slowly and have him at nursery for 9.30.

The nanny is fabulous, but it's obviously so very expensive. We are trying to keep cost out of the equation on the childcare front as we will make sacrifices elsewhere to afford what's right for him. So I suppose my only reservation about nanny is becoming an employer and what that entails and I also have worries about what would happen if she didn't work out as we would never get him back to the nursery this year due to their waiting lists.

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Kennington · 23/01/2017 20:10

Neither decision is bad. I chose nursery because of the 51 weeks per year opening.
Nannies are good too but I have seen too many sat on their smart phones in parks and heard too many off sick stories to take the plunge.

RogueStar01 · 23/01/2017 20:07

i've had all types of childcare, if you can afford it, I'd always go for a nanny for under 3 - we had to stop when ours was 2 as it was over double the cost of nursery. It's more expensive for a good reason, there is no comparison.

EdenX · 23/01/2017 20:03

I work in a nursery and am very pro-nursery in general, but I wouldn't send my own under 2s to one.

NuffSaidSam · 23/01/2017 19:50

I think you've made the right decision, I hope it all works out for you.

If the cost is likely to be a problem long term, you might want to consider a nanny share at some point. It would be good to mention that as a possibility to the nanny at this early stage and see what she thinks. Better than bringing it up out of the blue later on. A nanny share usually costs about 60% of having a nanny to yourself. Most nannies are open to a share, it's very common now.

Annie105 · 23/01/2017 19:45

Thanks folks! Big discussions this afternoon with hubby. Went to the nursery but the nursery manager wasn't available so I had to make do with the accounting person! She said the baby room is always full (quiet ish until March due to lots of babies reaching the next age/room over Christmas) and they do have some babies who struggle with the busyness but that the nursery team always get them to settle ... Eventually. When I was leaving and used the loo I heard two girls (one who was in the baby room) who work there outside talking about two other girls leaving and how it was going to be agency again not in a bitchy way just as in a sort of sad way and how all the babies in the baby room had a puking bug.. That kind of nailed it for me there is a fair bit of change going on behind the scenes which they aren't discussing it seems...offer letter to nanny has been printed. Thanks for all your advice. Was all very valid and I re read it all many times!

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Maryann1975 · 23/01/2017 13:45

If ou can afford it, a nanny. For all the reasons nuffsaidsam gave in the first reply.
After leaving school, I worked in a nursery, then as a nanny, followed by a childminder when I had my own dc.

My preference for my own dc would have been nanny, childminder, nursery. So much of what a nanny does is of benefit to th whole family, doing the children's laundry, changing their beds, can pick up any shopping, stop in for the Tesco delivery, be around to let the plumber in, feed the cat, empty the dishwasher, make grandma a birthday card, etc. It is the Most expensive option, but if you get a good one, they will be worth their weight in gold.

In my view, babies and small children don't need to be surrounded by lots of children all the time to become sociable children. A good childminder or nanny will be able to add in a couple of toddler groups/play dates with other children and their carers.
Don't forget to add on a couple of groups/classes on to your calculations. Nanny may well suggest taking baby to a couple of these and they could work out to add a lot onto the total. (Round here, baby sensory type group is £5, do something similar twice a week and it's £500 a year added on to the bill).
Hope whatever you choose works out for you.

HSMMaCM · 23/01/2017 13:19

I would say nanny, particularly as you've found one you like.

OVienna · 23/01/2017 09:51

Sorry I meant to say under six months....

OVienna · 23/01/2017 09:48

All three have their advantages and disadvantages.

I could never find a suitable childminder in our area - all of them seemed to have many of the disadvantages of the nurseries we were looking at but none of the bits of the relationship which feel more like dealing with a nanny. However, childminders were the cheapest of the three options by far. I would say if you can find a great one, it's probably gold dust though. We were, I think, just a bit unlucky.

Overall, being a nanny employer brought us a lot more stress than the nursery relationships we had. The cost, the management element, and the admin outweighed the benefits, in our case, of having the children looked after at home. Our last nanny, who was after school only, was fabulous but we had two others who were very challenging, for different reasons. All of my friends have had some turnover with nannies and it is something you need to bear in mind. I am not persuaded the aggro is worth it for one child, unless you baby is very young (under one month) and you are really unhappy with the nursery options.

sopsmum · 23/01/2017 09:44

As an alternative perspective, I have had two nannies. Both were great in their own way but it is very hard having someone in your home daily and you really do have to remember to set boundaries. I came home one day to find nanny sat in my bedroom playing with my toddler and baby. We have a five bedroom house with playroom and it just hadn't occurred to me that I needed to specify my personal space as off limits. I have also had a nanny that took my children on dog walks with her dog without ever asking me,random sickness generally on a Monday or Friday, never ending soft play with nanny mates, bizarre often processed food choices (despite well stocked fridge and access to Ocado log in and contrary to what was discussed at interview), questionable cleanliness, car seats not installed properly and other small niggles. A lot of what I discovered was because I needed surgery so I ended up being at home but not able to look after my children. I think I would have been oblivious had I been at work as I just wouldn't have seen it. It was also eye wateringly expensive and the tax is always loads more than you have calculated!! Mine are at a small nursery with early years profs (rather than teenagers with an nvq) and I'm very pleased. For me it costs more than a nanny though!

welshweasel · 23/01/2017 09:21

We were in a similar position and went for the nursery. Cost was certainly a factor. I love that nursery is open 50 weeks a year, I have enough difficulty getting the same time off as DH without throwing another person in the mix. I wasn't particularly comfortable with the idea of one person looking after a non verbal baby on their own. We are fairly rural and I wanted DS to be around lots of other children, especially as he won't be getting a sibling. I was worried about illness, particularly as we don't have any emergency childcare options other than one of us taking time off work. However, DS has been in full time nursery for 8 months now (started at 4 months old) and has only been off once so our fears were unfounded.

agapanthii · 23/01/2017 09:19

I have done both. For dd1 we used a great nursery which worked out well. When dd2 came along, dd 1 was in school, so we hired a nanny who could look after the baby by day, and also collect dd2 from school each afternoon. I'd say the nursery was great and I don't feel any regret about using it- but nanny was better, providing 1-1 care in our own home.

DustingOffTheDynastySuit · 23/01/2017 09:15

We did a mix of nanny and nursery from 9 months.

If you can afford a nanny and find a good one, and assuming your child is around 1, I would say nanny hands down. The nanny can take them to some baby groups for socialisation.

My two were quite happy going into nursery most of the time, but it was only really when they started preschool at 3 that I felt they were really gaining anything from it.

orangebobble · 23/01/2017 09:09

As a qualified early childhood teacher (I'm not in the U.K and am not sure what you call the equivalent there). I would say hands down a nanny or childminder rather than a nursery. I really don't want to knock anyone who sends their child to nursery, but, one-on-one (or close to it) care in a quiet, familiar environment, with a person who knows your child well and who will follow the routine you already have in place, is much better for a young child than a nursery environment, which can actually be quite stressful for a young child. I would say from 18 months to 2 years old is a better time to start nursery, if you're worried about socialization. Also, consider all the bugs your child will be exposed to. Some children seem to catch everything going when they first start at a nursery and if you're really unlucky, this can go on for months.

Rinceoir · 23/01/2017 08:35

*breastfeeding counsellor obviously!

Sunnie1984 · 23/01/2017 08:31

We do a mix of both.

I work 4 days a week and we have a nanny two days a week and nursery two days a week.

I've found that works for us as we get the benefit of structured nursery, which both my kids love, and the convenience of a nanny at home for sickness etc.

We are due a third baby soon and so when I go back to work we will increase our nanny to three days and nursery for one day as the risk of one of the kids being sick will increase massively!

It's tough financially because I have one at school already and one due to start next September so nursery would technically be the cheaper option as they also run the after school club for my older two.

But my husband travels for work a lot so if the kids are sick it always falls to me, and I can't be off work all the time... my kids fall sick one after the other so I could easily have to stay home for a full week.

So you can have the best of both worlds if your nanny is open to it.

1DAD2KIDS · 23/01/2017 08:29

I don't think you can beat the benifit of being around other children at that age. So nursery would be my choice.

Crumbs1 · 23/01/2017 08:28

Our nannies had free run of the fridge and larder. There was always stuff for their lunch. We usually had a toddler as well and always had extra snack things for visiting friends. That was nicest bit of nanny - they had nanny friends who brought other children around to play and stopped it being lonely.

Rinceoir · 23/01/2017 08:27

I was very keen on either a nanny or a childminder when I went back. Interviewed several but didn't really gel with any. The cost of the nanny was eye watering but like you we were willing to make sacrifices if we thought it would be best. Issues we came up with were reliability with nannies- we have no family around also really needed assurances about leave etc from early on but this wasn't forthcoming. We were happy to give very generous leave as long as it was planned well in advance in order to give us time to make alternative arrangements. DD was breastfed, bottle refusing and 10 months when I went back to work but barely eating solids and I also needed someone who wasn't going to panic about that fact. Almost all of the nannies we saw were very displeased and said things like- "you'll need to get her eating" as though I could force it!

I was disappointed as we were offering what we thought was a very attractive package-average pay for the area, with no babysitting evenings/weekends and a paid week off every 6 on top of annual leave (my shifts allowed for recovery days in blocks).

So for various reasons we went with nursery- there was a lovely small baby room with low ratios and very happy children. There was also a breastfed counsellor working in the room who was really a godsend when it came to supporting us through feeding issues. DD is almost 3 now, and still very happy in the nursery so I think it was the right choice for us. I did have a wobble after 2 months of crechitis but she's barely been unwell since those first few months.

I don't think there is a right answer-I would go with whatever setting you feel most comfortable with.

Surreyblah · 23/01/2017 08:15

I too would go for the nanny, but cost should not be ignored as a factor IMO!

Annie105 · 23/01/2017 08:02

Nanny Nick no that's on my to do list today to contact them, I'm also trying to work out the incidentals like insurance, extra electricity and heating, kitty.. And actually something just occurred to me I never discussed do nanny a expect food in the fridge for lunch/dinner for themselves or purely only snack stuff?

He will be just under 9 months when the nursery was due to start. 3 days a week was all nursery could offer but I'm likely to have to work 4 eventually by time he is just over 1. I'm thinking of going to see them tomorrow just to be sure as my husband has said this morning he would like me to do one last nursery look (although he is pro nanny not just for the baby but for us to ensure our time with him is quality not constantly chores and racing to get to work and from work)

Should have clarified the childminder has two children in the afternoon after nursery she likes to keep her mid mornings free for her own things like the gym, cooking etc she said it works much nicer for her and the income covers all she needs. She would be self employed so invoice for her time as its under 8 hours a week on average.

HiDB your nursery sounds lovely ours is central London so teeny tiny outside space and relatively small baby room but yes your are right the more than one person responsible is one our parents (they live far away so can't offer care) are worried about for nanny option. They are worried that no one is watching what is going on when she would be in her own with him.. I think they read a lot of scary daily mail stories! But of course that is a concern I do feel a bit like that myself but this woman gives us a nice safe feeling.

This is without a doubt the hardest decision ever!

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Wait4nothing · 23/01/2017 07:54

As a nursery user I would say mornings are hard, my dd doesn't sleep well at nursery (so much going on despite sleeping room) and has been ill since starting.
We do think we made the best choice for our family but it's still hard having those negatives!

Crumbs1 · 23/01/2017 07:48

Nanny every time. They can give a more normalised experience in the child's own home. They can adapt to needs of individual. They can look after unwell child.

smilingsarahb · 23/01/2017 07:42

I would pick a nanny for all the reasons outlined in your first reply. I regret picking a nursery for my eldest who struggled (my youngest was fine but he had a different personality and would have been fine with all sorts of arrangements). I picked a nursery because I was worried about reliability of a nanny (sick days, getting better jobs etc) and a belief they were really expensive. I now know more about nannies from a couple of close friends and it looked so much better. They still go to toddler groups to get the social contact and can head to nursery for a few hours a day when they are two and build up to school hours. I am not digging at people who use a nursery as that's what I did but I think a nanny is better.

Yerazig · 23/01/2017 07:39

As a nanny who started of my career working in a nursery, for under 2'S I would always suggest using a nanny over a nursery. Babies need that one on one that you get from a nanny. A good nanny will make the transition for you returning to work so much easier. I always say when they get to two that's a perfect age to start introducing nursery and being in more of a formal setting slowly introducing them in to more of a school experience.

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