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CM, What do you put against your Tax

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shosha · 28/01/2007 22:39

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Soapbox · 30/01/2007 14:06

Bonkerz - harsh??????

It was completely factual? Totally non-emotive?

I don't care what your IR contact has told you - it is not a valid business expense!

julienetmum · 30/01/2007 14:03

My parents run a large business and my Mum says that when you ring the IR you mostly just get an office person who is there to answer general queries. Often they do not have the correct information and in this case I am sure this is not right.

Self employed people can not claim for the cost of not working and self employed people have no automatic right to holiday, paid or otherwise.

Katymac · 30/01/2007 13:49

Bonkerz - remember when you sell your house you need to declare the "profit" that adding the conservatory on to you house causes the house price to increase - this is for capitol gains tax purposes. It's the reason I didn't claim against my conservatory as I couldn't be sure of remaining in my house long enough (iyswim)

BTW i WORKED FOR THE ir & i HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE ARRANGEMNT YOU EXPLAINED (opps sorry for shouting)- In fact the info Soapbox stated is how I an ex IR employee would understand the situation - I would urge you to get it in writing from the IR (they are renound for changing thier minds I speak from experience "from the other end of the phone" so to speak)

bonkerz · 30/01/2007 13:01

not whole cost of conservatory though think it was 40%

bonkerz · 30/01/2007 13:00

just rang IR and was told that what i was doing was ok and an acceptable cost. If i was working in an office i would be paid for any holiday i take - generally upto 4 weeks. So as im dont get paid via parents then it is a cost for me to take my holiday IYSWIM. Soapbox, im not diddling my accounts and have only done what i was told was acceptable, you were a bit harsh in your reply! Was also told i can claim 30% of the cost of our 2nd family car which i sometimes use for short journeys when i only have 2 or 3 children, cant claim petrol on that car though as claim petrom on my 8 seater BUT it does mean another £300 off my profit!
Am having laminate put down in house too and can claim 30% of the cost for that to as being doen to make life easier when minding. Also claimed cost of new conservatory last year as it is a play room and storgae room.

StrawberrySnowflakes · 30/01/2007 10:26

well i thought i was going to get a bill to pay in april, but it seems i wont have to pay anything till sept so i bought dd an in car dvd player at weekend for when we travel to dp's sisters and when we go on hol in aug..she lurves it but all we get now is high school musical on dvd and cd now! and i still have plenty there to add more too each week!..felt very proud i have all money and stuff sorted as im not normally good at that stuff

suzy26 · 29/01/2007 22:24

photo development
hire of carpet cleaner
professional sofa clean/carpet clean
washing tablets (1 per week ish)
spare parts for hoover that broke
car seats/pushchairs/other child equipment
clothes bought for work
spare clothes/wellies/rain gear bought for kids
prac prof childcare mag
mobile phone contract (% of)
stationary
smoke alarms/carbon monoxide alarms
boiler service costs

mykidzrmyworld · 29/01/2007 21:51

a hand written receipt would be fine - tho that does depend whether they are claiming themselves otherwise they wouldnt want to do receipts!The lady I am getting is paid cash but shes above board so will be fine to do me receipts

TheIronLady · 29/01/2007 21:40

And if we can ofset against Tax for a cleaner to clean minded areas, do we have to have a receipt of somesort? Most cleaners are cash in hand arn't they, so that would be a problem I think...

mykidzrmyworld · 29/01/2007 21:22

l@@ks like a nice treat could come your way then SS and spend the money on you and your family.
Ive only just started CM well few mths-is it worth while putting money away then?

StrawberrySnowflakes · 29/01/2007 19:45

but if IR told you that Bonkerz, ring and clarify as theyre the ones who you 'know' and who you send your expenses off too!?

so does anyone actually know about cleaners then?, i want someone to do kitchen, bathroom and windows n stuff all places mindees use?

and i actually put away 10% off my wage every week into high interst savings, but judging by the sheer amount of stuff ive bought i dont think m bill will be high when i get it in april?!

Soapbox · 29/01/2007 19:40

Sorry - everyone is not entitled to 4 weeks holidays.

Soapbox · 29/01/2007 19:39

Bonkerz - your holiday is most certainly not a cost of your business.

You are self-employed and as such your accounts show your earnings as the residual of what is left after all expenses have been paid. You cannot add in what you would have been paid for holidays if you were employed rather than self-employed.

bonkerz · 29/01/2007 18:28

It was IR person who told me to put 4 weeks fees down as everyone is entitled to 4 weeks paid holiday and if you dont get paid then it is an expense to you IYSWIM. Have done it for 3 years now.

mykidzrmyworld · 29/01/2007 14:51

it wouldnt be for ironing just general clean of whole hse but mindee's use whole hse

Katymac · 29/01/2007 14:49

Only if she only cleans the minding areas (imo - I could be wrong) but doing your ironing or cleaning the bedrooms then I'd split it

mykidzrmyworld · 29/01/2007 14:37

yes that def helps
So im getting a cleaner - can i claim for the whole amount then ?

Katymac · 29/01/2007 14:12

No - because if you had a F/T job you couldn't

I always think about - who would pay for it if it were a school - to decide whether it is my personnel cost or a minding cost eg
small animal bedding & food = minding cost
My Lunch = my cost

& who would pay if I had a F/T office job eg on-line shopping = my cost
cleaning the minding area = minding cost

Does that make sense (or is it a load of cobblers??)

shosha · 29/01/2007 14:09

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mykidzrmyworld · 29/01/2007 14:04

I cant see why not? Seems reasonable though there arguement would be go on the weekend like everyone else.Do u work weekends>?

looneytune · 29/01/2007 13:52

What about online shopping delivery charge? I would go into shops myself if it wasn't for the hours I work etc. What do you think?

badgerhead · 29/01/2007 13:47

I claim part of my window cleaner costs, website hosting fees,
some household cleaning bits,
Tissues,
paper
printer ink,
courses
meetings mileage

dmo · 29/01/2007 09:24

on a course resently we talked about petrol etc
one women didnt drive so asked if she could claim for shoes No is the answer

i claim towards internet and pc running
a shed to put outdoor toys in
kids own face cloths/plates/cups
% towards food
toddler groups
days out

Twoandabump · 29/01/2007 08:40

Holiday pay is nothing to do with the tax office. You would be in trouble with that one.

Mums and tots groups etc I also claim.

Did you know that you can also claim 20p per mile for using a bike How they work out that one I have no idea - maybe it is to cover the extra calories it takes to use it

shosha · 29/01/2007 08:33

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