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'Mum says she's going to fire you!!'

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MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 17:12

I've worked at my current position for nearly two years. One charge, 9 year old girl. Dogs that I walk/look after.

Never had an appraisal/pay review in that time even though I believe I earn below market rate (live out and in central London) I sometimes do proxy parenting and staying over as MB is a single parent and goes away on business quite regularly. Some weekend work too at same hourly rate as mon-fri.

I was very much a Nanny initially but over the past year or so it has lapsed into more of a housekeeping territory, with expected tasks creeping in that were not in my initial job description but I've just sort of accepted as girl is becoming a little more independent (I say a little, as she needs constant badgering to shower/brush hair/ teeth, do homework etc etc)

Last week the girl and the mum went skiing. The day before was half term Monday so has my charge all day. We went for long dog walk, finished a project she had to do for school, baked a cake, went shopping, then she had time on the iPad while I ironed all her clothes and put them out ready to pack, as instructed. Packed her toiletries. Cleaned her shoes, washed and dried her hair, cooked dinner from scratch for her and her mum. Kitchen tidy and clean, dishwasher on. Mum had text earlier in the day to say I needed to find and pack a certain pair of trousers. Did not find them- haven't seen them for months- I am sure she left then when she has a sleepover party.

Mum gets back at 7:30- I'd been there for 12 hours at this point. First thing she asks about is the trousers. She was annoyed I hadn't found them. Said I needed to be better organised. We went together to my charge's spare room school uniform wardrobe as she said it was in a state. (It was- I'd been looking for the trousers but as it was half term planned a big tidy of it while they were away)

It's difficult as I constantly pick up after my charge- she will literally chuck her clothes off where she stands and leave them there, hair bobbles all over the place, constant mess and rubbish on the sofa when she gets in from school. Maybe it's par for the course but she is nearly 10. I feel like I'm forever picking up after her.

Anyway my boss seemed really frosty with me and as I was dog sitting while they were away sent me a list of jobs to complete- washing all the towels, sewing buttons, tidying the pantry, cleaning the fridge, things like that. Tone was that I was lazy and needed to do more!

I've always done my charge's washing and ironing, keep her room tidy, no issue with that.

Sure enough when they got back my charge was full of 'mum wanted to fire you before we went away! She was so mad because she says you don't do much!' (Didn't say in front of mum)

Is this unprofessional?! Could she actually just fire me? What would she be able to say the reason was? Would I have any rights? Notice period on contract is one month. She seems okay with me at the moment. Has not said anything directly. But feels like a big black cloud.

I do want to leave and have had a couple of interviews since Christmas but the last one that was promising wanted to fiddle the tax and do under the table payments and I'm not prepared to do that.

Sorry it was so long. Wanted to vent and seek any advice if possible!

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MadHattersWineParty · 26/02/2016 10:49

Do nannies get redundancy payments?

I have to hope she wouldn't totally screw me over if she did let me go. I know my charge is probably going to boarding school at 11, anyway.

We have discussed getting the girl to be a little more independent (basics like choosing her own clothes to wear, doing her own buttons up, putting her rubbish in the bin, drying her own hair or getting her own drink) never lasts though and her mum never introduces any consequences or incentives anyway, so she has no reason to change her behaviour unfortunately.

My current response when she says something like 'can you get me some socks ' is something like 'you've got arms and legs and know where your socks are kept' which works when I'm there but her mum does everything for her when I'm not.

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ReallyTired · 26/02/2016 00:07

Your nine year old charge is getting to an age were little girls do turn vile. Its the start of teenage hormones. She may have overheard half a conversation or coming out with a pack of lies. Young pre teens often test the boundaries to see what happens with people they love. (Ie. the nanny who they have had since they were tiny.)

It might be possible that your employer is thinking of making you redunant due to the fact that her child is growing up and having a nanny is a less appriopiate form of childcare. Even the best of nannies get made redunant when their charges grow up. Often prep schools offer wrap around or overnight care.

I hope you find a more suitable job. If you don't want to be a housekeeper then there are lots of childcare jobs.

venys · 25/02/2016 23:55

The nanny job aside, this is normal human behaviour to underestimate what other people do all day. (I am sure I constantly get judged by visitors on the sorry state of my house as a SAHM even though I work my ass off without a break every day). It's just a little unfortunate though that your boss is being less than empathetic. If you feel the relationship is strained, I hope that you can find another job soon and call it quits on this one. In the meantime, perhaps talk to the employer about ways you can help the child be a bit more responsible about the house if you feel she would be amenable to that?

MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 18:16

*doesn't

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MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 18:16

She first really pay nanny rates at the moment- I'm on £10 hour gross.... But yes the charge is starting to need a nanny less, it's the trips away that I think she really needs someone for. Girl doesn't even sleep through the night!!

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VimFuego101 · 25/02/2016 18:06

TBH i suspect she won't want to keep paying nanny rates to look after a 9 year old for much longer. So based on that alone let alone the other bad behaviour i would start looking at what else is out there.

MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 17:45

I requested time off in lieu for evening and weekend work- that was ignored. I still get basic holiday allowance. Really really want to go away for a couple of weeks with my boyfriend this year- I asked back in December if she could let me know a workable a time- too difficult to accommodate apparently until she goes away herself in August.

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MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 17:43

Thanks- a log is a really good idea actually!

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MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 17:42

It's funny as am regarded as pretty assertive by everyone who knows me. Sadly not in this area. Think I'm always worried that with such high outgoings I'd be stuffed if I rocked the boat and she let me go.

Girl can be a brat definitely. some of it is typical pre teen attitude and some is just blatant entitlement and a lifetime of people pandering to her.

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Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 25/02/2016 17:41

Can you keep a log of things you have done in the day? And show her?

It's full on and 12 hours plus a day plus extras is huge without a pay rise or extras

Sixweekstowait · 25/02/2016 17:39

done hung something

Sixweekstowait · 25/02/2016 17:38

Keep quiet, get a job and then leave without notice - you sound a bit 'soft' - learn from this re scope of duties, overtime rates etc. With your experience you should get done hung legit soon. Little girl sounds like horrible entitled brat

MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 17:38

I have written about her before.

Not a contract as such but when I used her as a referee for the flat I rent, she stated that we had a one month notice period. It says that on my original job offer too. Never had defined hours as they am expected to be quite flexible.

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Vixxfacee · 25/02/2016 17:34

Do you have a contract?

I know you're looking for a new job but sounds like she is taking the piss out of you and it is time for you to go.

Did you write another thread about her a short while ago?

MadHattersWineParty · 25/02/2016 17:30

Just bumping

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