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How much for daughter of a friend looking after DS

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plrmummy · 25/02/2016 11:54

A friend's daughter (11 years old) will be coming over to play with DS (15 months) whilst I get on with work each week for 1-1.5 hours. I will be in the house the whole time and it will be round about 3.30pm start. How much do I offer to pay her?

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jclm · 26/02/2016 14:41

There are many nannies/mothers helpers that may be interested in a post like this, thought they'd probably want a few more hours.

MrsJayy · 25/02/2016 15:43

Give her a fiver every time she comes round she is 11 you are not employing an 11 year old and tbh you might not get any work done she is 11 she might not be able to keep the baby amused for an hour

Callaird · 25/02/2016 15:37

I think leaving a baby with an 11 year old is crazy. It's also illegal to pay anyone under 13 for work undertaken (excepting sports, modelling, acting but you need to get a work licence for children doing these jobs)

I babysat for various aged sleeping children at 11 years old, I've now been a nanny for 29 years, I still have moments when I don't know what the hell I'm doing! But I have been trained in paediatric first aid and know what to do when a child is choking, stops breathing or other medical issues that need immediate attention and adrenaline takes over and I can do what is needed. It happens a lot more than you'd imagine. An 11 year old may not have the common sense not to give a 1 year old a whole grape, a mini egg, a large wodge of freshly baked bread, even a marble, tiny playmobile ball or Lego hair (all things I have saved children from choking on!) only the mini egg one was my charge and she was in the care of my employer at the time, mum ran into the room carrying a blue tinged baby, threw her at me and ran out of the house screaming (she's now 22 and happy and healthy! Boss went on a first aid course very shortly after)

So no, I would not leave an 11 year old in charge of a child, ever.

MyNewBearTotoro · 25/02/2016 14:29

When I was 11/12 I used to look after 2 DC aged 4 & 2 and occasionally their baby sister whilst their mum did other stuff in the house for free. I loved it and didn't need paying.

National minimum wage does not apply for under 16s but is £3.87 for people aged 16-17 so £5-£7 would probably be a fair wage, especially considering you will be on call and presumably deal with anything more 'difficult' (eg: dirty nappy, crying etc) so really she is just getting paid to play.

MissRabbitHasTooManyJobs · 25/02/2016 14:00

Does it have to be at this time specifically? Just wondering if you could fit the work into ds nap times if he has? I'm not sure I would trust an eleven yr old to be in charge...

Pinkx3 · 25/02/2016 13:57

My DD is 11 and she'd happily play with a young child to help out a friend for free so I'm sure giving her £5-£7 for the time she is there is plenty!

QueenJuggler · 25/02/2016 13:56

I have to say I think this is a crazy idea. You're either there, and she's acting as a helper and you're doing the primary caring, or you're not "present" and she's in charge. At 11 years old. Bonkers.

Lilipot15 · 25/02/2016 13:55

But then again a friend of mine has a 12 year old neighbour come in to do similar to us and she doesn't get any money at all! I think the idea is that the youngster sees it as an investment for future babysitting jobs!! And I guess it's experience in the long run.

Lilipot15 · 25/02/2016 13:53

Our student minds both of mine (two and 8 months) for periods whilst I am in the house, hence £7.50. Often times she has charge of one in one room and I am getting 1-1 time with the other, eg toddler "helping" me cook. Worth it for me to feel that both of them are getting quality adult time (she is excellent) at a time of day when I feel frazzled.

cestlavielife · 25/02/2016 13:50

if you can work in ten minutes bursts then yes it might work

cestlavielife · 25/02/2016 13:49

if you can work in ten minutes bursts then yes it might work

cestlavielife · 25/02/2016 13:49

i dont think you will get 1'5 hours free- every five to ten minutes your child be looking for you if they know you are there. or the 11 year old will want something.

i've had nannies and carers and if i am in the house i cannot shut away for 1.5 hours. unless you pretend you are going out and so the child thinks you not there...which wont work as you need to supervise the 11 year old.

if you plan to completely shut yourself away then you need to pay proper rates to a proper babysitter. .

Xmasbaby11 · 25/02/2016 13:45

I don't know any 11 year olds so can't comment on suitability.

Xmasbaby11 · 25/02/2016 13:45

Probably 5 an hour. Cm are 4 an hour around here, and while it's not the same situation that gives am idea of going rates.

Cindy34 · 25/02/2016 13:44

OP is still in the house. £5-7 for each visit may well be accepted, depends what the child is wanting in terms of pocket money for doing this semi-supervised task.

plrmummy · 25/02/2016 13:42

No I wasn't going to pay her £3.50 as you rightly pointed out that she is coming here rather than DS going to her house. I was just trying to give some context. Considering that £3.50 is the going rate for a childminder, £7.50/hour sounds a bit much for paying someone looking after DS in my own home whilst I am there.

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lovelynannytobe · 25/02/2016 13:35

I think my 12yo would be really chuffed with a tenner for an hour and a half. I would be careful though ... she's only 11 and the legal minimum working age is 13 (my daughter is counting down the days until she will be able to do a local paper round).

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/02/2016 13:30

You will be leaving a 11yr in charge of a baby??? Shock

I wouldn't do this. Regardless if you are in the house - it's different siblings playing with a baby. Not another child /stranger from another family

And certainly wouldn't be paying them £7ph

There isn't a nmw for 11yrs. Does this tell you something?

writingonthewall · 25/02/2016 13:21

your childminder has other children and isn't coming to your house. This girl is coming to your house for sole care. please tell me you weren't going to pay her £3.50 an hour! you've got to take into account her travel time too for such a short session. I'd offer £10 for the hour and a half.

NickNacks · 25/02/2016 13:17

I'm self employed, minimum wage is not relevant. And unless the Op is employing this child then it's also irrelevant. Plus she's only 11!!!

AStreetcarNamedBob · 25/02/2016 13:16

I'd give about £5 an hour. I'm sure she will be thrilled with that.

ImperialBlether · 25/02/2016 13:15

You're working at less than the minimum wage then, NickNacks.

plrmummy · 25/02/2016 13:13

That's more the amount I was thinking of, especially considering that my childminder only charges £3.50 an hour.

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NickNacks · 25/02/2016 13:01

Bloody hell at these prices.

I charge £5ph for childminding/babysitting. I'm completely amazed at these quotes Shock

Lilipot15 · 25/02/2016 12:41

I pay £7.50 per hour for a similar situation but to a student friend of the family. I'm in the house cooking and tidying.