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Norland Nanny Salary

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Chuggsbugs · 09/06/2015 13:14

Hello, We have found our Mary Poppins and are now wondering what salary to offer her. What would a daily Norland nanny (London) with approx. 3 years experience expect to earn? She will have sole charge of one baby and one 5 year old (who is in school) and is an exceptional candidate.

The nanny is very keen to proceed and we want to make her a fair and attractive offer? We will include gym membership and an annual discretionary bonus.

If anybody has some tips, it would be greatly appreciated!

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GlamGiraffe · 02/08/2021 14:19

My best friend is a Norlander. She has been qualified for 30 years. She deliberately wont take jobs specifically aimed at Norlanders with the associated very high salaries as they are more often than not, in her experience for families with extreme demands requiring loads of extra travel and almost another parent rather than a nanny. She is a really experienced and fab nanny in South East London and earns £14-£15 per hour which is a pretty standard nanny wage for the area and not remotely a reflection of her qualification. She would happily settle for a normal salary rather than one of these film star levels you see in the Norland website which she she could easily demand, as she doesnt want to live the tricky filmstar/VIP family life that so many if the jobs require. Many mean nannies cant really have a life of their own hence the very high salaries on offer.
My friend has a job she loves and a life too. There are lots of great qualified nannies who also expect a salary based on this principle. Agood norlander foesnt have to cost more than any other great nanny.

Lisa465 · 02/08/2021 14:02

@chuggsbugs
I'm curious what you paid or offered in the end?
Considering in Ireland without a degree I earn over £40,000 sterling a year anyone higher ING form norland need to consider that London is an expensive city with higher salaries and she has a 4yr degree and potential to be highered by some famous clients I would have suggested a minimum of £44,000-£50,000 a year with a pay rise of 5% per annum since she could potentially be working for famous people and she could leave after a few years and demend a higher salary as each year allows for this with norland nannies.

I did not attend norland or any nanny school but did one basic year of training as a Montessori school and by the time I had 2yrs experience as a teacher and 2 as a nanny I was earning £44,000 stirling in Ireland for one baby 50hrs a week. £15.50 for any extra hours with either an early finish to home and rest before returning or a late start the next day if babysitting on a week day past 10pm and £300 a day or €350 a day if the parents went away for a weekend. I am earning £40,000 in my current position with all lunch foods provided seperate (they include me in the weekly shop and buy lunch once or twice a week) for one toddler and was offered similar by 2 other families so it was not a unique situation. My previous salary was only £18,000 as a teacher with no chance for a pay rise even if I had 10yrs experience which shows how greedy montessori schools are... This is compared to £32,000 for my first nanny job.

As a nanny my duties for the family who paid £44,000 stirling included all introducing food for the first time and then cooking all meals for the baby from scratch no frozen or processed or unhealthy foods, supermarket shopping, buying essentials such as messy play clothes, toilet training seat or wet gear etc. with the baby during my working hours paied via an extra allowance outside of my salary, organising signing up and keeping on track of classes, buying tickets for live children's classical music events at the concert hall, once off drama or art evens for toddlers and other baby/toddler play groups, and generally helping to organise the gardeners/cleaning lady and anyone else such as handy men etc. These are standard duties that a norland nanny would be expected to do. Hence the better salary they would expect and will be able to find. I am surprised the agency did not tell you her expected salary before the interview as I have recently gone through an agency for the first time (previously through word of mouth or a free online site nannies post resumes) and before nay family interviewed with me they told my expectated minimum salary and the families had the choice to go ahead with meeting me or declining of they could not afford the salary.

Bowerbird5 · 30/11/2019 21:34

I’m an NNEB Dip. Norland Nannies did the same course and exam that we did. Two years full time. Placements at Mother and baby, nurseries, schools, social services, hospital children’s ward and a trip to London to Guys, Great Ormand Street and St.Thomas’s as well as multi - cultural nurses.
Just to let parents know that NNEB are just as good. We don’t wear a uniform but some Norlanders don’t either.

Rustygecko · 28/11/2019 22:27

Many of the comments here show total ignorance, comparing what a Norland Nanny would expect to get paid with a student debt of £90,000 and just finished the Oxbridge of nannies, compared to the average nanny. It's like comparing a Cambridge grad with a double first in maths going into the City, compared to someone with GCSEs trying to do the same.

101Nanny · 22/10/2018 11:02

This might be a bit late but it came up in a search I made...I am a nanny myself trained in Montessori with a few years experience (2 in teaching 2.5 as a nanny) I am shocked how little Norland nannys make

My first nanny job I earned £25,000 per annum or just around £12.50 per hour to mind 2 children

Now i am making £40,000 per annum or £17.50 per hour to mind one baby and I'm not even Norlands trained. It's pretty standard as I attended 10 interviews last May and the lowest salary I was offered was £30,000 with most offering me closet to the amount I am amazing now. How ever I didn't pick the family solely based on salary they where the kindest family with a general good vibe to them...there is so much more for the nanny to consider

Chuggsbugs · 16/06/2015 12:52

No problem, BIWI Smile

Thank you, ImNotChanging - that is very lovely of you. Will drop you a message now.

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ImNotChangingMyUsernameAgain · 15/06/2015 22:49

If you PM your email address I would be happy to send you my template contract which is based on the one that Norland first sent me, which I have improved over time with experience. It is the bollocks if I say so myself!

BIWI · 15/06/2015 22:42

Sorry Chuggsbugs. We have had so many trolls on MN recently that I'm over-suspicious.

Chuggsbugs · 15/06/2015 22:11

Thank you, mrswishywashy!

Totally agree re. the agency...absolutely useless and very bizarre.

Thank you for the heads up re. contracts and mumsnet. I also have two employment lawyer friends who have kindly volunteered their services.

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mrswishywashy · 15/06/2015 21:54

That's a shame about the agency especially as you're the one paying them, they should be there to guide both nanny and employer.

As blondes said I'd make sure to get agency contract looked over by an employment lawyer or use a nanny tax company.

If agency has been unhelpful with guiding a rate I can't imagine their contract is up to scratch either. Also a good idea to look online for areas that may be missed in a contract, mums net I think even has threads.

Hope you and your nanny have a very happy working relationship.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/06/2015 21:46

Surprised the agency didn't give you a ballpark

What did you agree on in the end

Also most agencies won't draft contracts now as they are not legally trained and there could be a comeback

Nanny tax companies have one or you can find them online

SkodaLabia · 15/06/2015 21:43

40 grand?!?!? For looking after a kid or two?!?! Where do I apply?

Chuggsbugs · 15/06/2015 21:22

Thanks for all the (mostly) helpful tips. The agency were being unhelpful, both to ourselves and the nanny, so we reached a mutually agreeable rate without the agency's involvement and the agency is now drafting the employment contract.

BIWI - There is nothing odd about the post. We have never hired a nanny before and the agency was being quite obstructive wrt salary discussions. We had indicated a salary band when the role was advertised.

Nothing wrong either with being a first-time poster. Posting unhelpful comments like that gives MN a bad name and discourages people from seeking advice or help.

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BIWI · 10/06/2015 15:50

This is an odd thread altogether, from a first-time poster as well ...

mrswishywashy · 10/06/2015 13:52

Also surprised that either the nanny or agency haven't given an indication of wage. I don't attend interview unless I know an estimate. I also mention at first interview as well.

I would expect minimum of £12 gross per hour. However if you have a top figure you can afford then I'd go a couple of pounds per hour below that so that you can have a pay rise after six months or a year if all is going well.

Also its an employers market at the moment, over all nanny wages have dropped or stagnated from five years ago.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/06/2015 10:52

Very surprised you didn't talk salary - I always know what the family will pay as if they couldn't afford me no point in going

What do you want to pay?

Would you pay same /less more for a qual nanny who isn't Normans but had 10/15yrs exp

electionfatigue · 10/06/2015 08:22

Going rate for a live out nanny round here, NW London zone 3 is £10 net per hour despite the agencies trying to push that up. I wouldn't pay extra for the Norland name, personally, what do you get for it other than the kudos?

Hopetogether · 10/06/2015 07:12

Similar qualification. Brilliant grammar whoops!

Hopetogether · 10/06/2015 07:12

I am of similar and a nanny. I would expect £12 net. Hope this helps.
I know many nannies on this who are not Norlanders.

Pumpeedo · 09/06/2015 13:43

Are you going directly thro the Norland College in Bath to recruit her? I enquired last year and they wouldn't even suggest a candidate without knowing my T&Cs. If it's a standalone agency, just double check all her details. I know you shouldn't have to but you just never know.

Pumpeedo · 09/06/2015 13:37

My Norland told me her salary. Back in 2008 it was £24k plus car plus granny flat. If you're paying gym membership, etc it's a BIK and would need to continue if she was sick or was on maternity leave.

I have to say she was worth every penny and was with us until the littlest went off to boarding school. It does sound strange that she hasn't named her price to you. Check her qualifications.

ImNotChangingMyUsernameAgain · 09/06/2015 13:37

Actually, I think 40k is probably at the low end. Remember that you will be competing with VIPs and oligarchs to recruit a NN and they often pay .

ImNotChangingMyUsernameAgain · 09/06/2015 13:35

There is a salary guide on the Norland agency website www.norland.co.uk/agency/nannies/salary_and_placement_fees. I think you are looking at around 40k.

Good luck with it. Our Norland Nanny was truly our Mary Poppins. She came to us in her probabtion year and she is still an important part of our family 3 years after she left us. Through our NN we met many other NNs and they were mostly delightful.

Heels99 · 09/06/2015 13:33

The agency will know what similar nannies are paid.
Also will you be providing a car etc

NannyNim · 09/06/2015 13:31

Speak to the agency! They used to have a salary guide on the website but if you can't find that just ring and ask. Otherwise, ask her! She'll have an idea based on what she was earning previously and what all her peers are earning.

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