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Au pair claiming child had tantrum

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LUKYMUM · 29/05/2015 01:37

Wednesday morning I found a missed call from home at 9am. I called back to be told that my ds had been rude and thrown everything everywhere.
Ds and au pair generally get on well and this is completely out of character. I am naturally upset but I told her I'll deal with it that evening. Nothing I could do from work.

I called home at 5pm (because they were on an outing during the day) and told my son to apologise and to write a sorry letter. I also cancelled time in the garden as a result.

I came home and spoke to au pair. She told me her version. I said it was really out of character and we could both see the potential trigger, but regardless it was totally unacceptable. I spoke to him this morning (without telling him her version) and it's entirely different. He didn't throw a tantrum, he didn't throw things around but he was upset with her. He had taken things off the hanger to find his hat, at her request. He made a mess but he was going to clean it up. (Which he always does).
Now I'm not one of those precious mums who thinks her child is always right. My son is quite articulate and usually honest.It's completely completely out of character.

I do find she lies about small things but nothing like this. I am 97% certain my son is being honest but I don't know what to do. She's a nice girl, been with us for a few months now. It's actually upsetting me quite a bit now.

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LUKYMUM · 29/05/2015 07:24

To put it into context I left at 8am. They hadn't been together long. (Regarding the long day, she's doing fewer days over longer hours. I asked if she was ok with it).
They went out at 9.30 with a friend of mine and I called her back at 9.18 . There was absolutely no point in me calling and speaking to him.

Regarding undermining her, I did support her, simply on her say so. Why would she lie? I don't know. She was up really late the night before, she has a problem with time keeping. I had to wake her up myself before she left. I think she didn't get ready on time for 9.30 and was in a fluster. When she's in that mood she tends to be more bossy and he was probably rude. It's the version that he threw everything everywhere that I have real trouble believing.
When he's awake and she s getting ready (due to lateness) he does take his books off the shelf to read them and forget to put them back. And he also draws and puts his papers on the floor next to the book shelf. I think she was upset by the mess, rudeness and she couldn't find the hat. (Which they forgot at the park the day before, it emerged from a mum).

He's not in less trouble due to this version of the story. I punished first and listened later to avoid behind disrespectful to her. Coaxed and bribed him almost to tell me her version.

When they have arguments in front of me. I back her up to the hilt. And in private I speak to her. But! She does have form for snatching things out of his hands (even if I'm in the house) and expecting him to listen without a count down and do something there and then. Which a kid isn't always going to do. I turn a blind eye because she's a lovely girl overall and they get along.

worridmum I'm sorry the family treated you like that.

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Flywheel · 29/05/2015 06:52

Your ds is more than likely minimising his poor behaviour. Why would the au pair call you if he was completely calm and just making a bit of a mess. It doesn't make any sense. I know you want to believe your son, but use your head here.

redcaryellowcar · 29/05/2015 06:50

I'm afraid I disagree with the pps who say you must believe your au pair over your son. What sort of message does that give to your son about lying and what would you want him to do (totally separate to this situation) if someone was abusing him, I assume you would want him to tell you his honest version of events and be confident that you would believe him?

MythicalKings · 29/05/2015 06:32

Agree that the au pair has no reason to lie. She called you for help and you gave her none. Very unfair. She isn't a nanny, as others have said.

Idefix · 29/05/2015 06:30

Is there more to this?
Why would the Au Pair lie?
Your child told you a slightly different version of the same story and claimed that of course he was going to pick up the thrown about/dropped items...did he?

As others have said children do lie, it is part of growing up for most children. Was he very upset/scared that the au pair had phoned you? Perhaps he thought he was in big trouble and when you asked him he down played the situation.

Children also behave very differently around different people and it maybe that your ds is pushing boundaries with the au pair who he perceives is not as in charge of him as his parents are?

Do you ever contradict what the au pair does or says in front of ds? Children very quickly pick up on these cues and use them.

Optimist1 · 29/05/2015 06:00

Regardless of the true extent of your child's misbehaviour, the morning phone call was your au pair telling you she was at the end of her tether and couldn't cope. You said you couldn't deal with it on the phone, left her to cope and then some hours later dealt with it on the phone. It sounds to me as though you're using her as a nanny - not fair.

quietlysuggests · 29/05/2015 03:00

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CarriesBucketOfBlood · 29/05/2015 02:52

Your au pair doesn't seem to have anything to gain by lying. Why can't you back her up and believe her?

worridmum · 29/05/2015 02:46

Its really tricky to be fair first unless you have concrete proof that what the Au pair is saying is a lie you must support her as otherwise you would totally undermine her and your DS would pick up on that so when ever something does not go his way and he misbehvaours they can assume they can get away with being naughty by telling mummy a different story to that or Au pair / teacher / any other adult.

and from my experence of Aupairing nearly all children can lie even the most honest appearing ones (bitter experence of 1 of my charges breaking an expensive vase and than blaming me for the damage despite prevously never lying apprently and my hosts attempted to dock my wages to pay for said vase upon their daughters word. and to be fair until this she hadnt be caught lying about anything )

But why would the Au pair ring you at work unless he really was misbehavouring? what benifet would she achive by lying about this? where as your DS has lots to gain by lying or not telling the full truth (aka leaving important details out rather than outright lies etc) about events (aka trying to not get into trouble etc)

So for this instance I would give the Au pair the benifet of the doubt but keep a eye on the situation as like i mentioned prevously you could undermine her without real cause