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swapping cars with Nanny and who pays what?

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aliceinwonderland56 · 19/12/2014 09:46

I wonder if anyone has been in the situation before where they swapped cars with their nanny instead of them using their own car for transporting the children?

We are employing a new Nanny to look after our four children come the start of the year but she drives a small 4 seater car. She has said she would be more than happy to swap and use our large 7 seater while she is at work and I would take her car to work, etc. Normally when the nanny uses her car we pay 40p per mile as usual but I'm not sure this would be the same in this case as she's still using my car?

How would it work this way/what have you done in the past? Many thanks

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Hippychick73 · 21/12/2014 14:28

Look at smartlease. and lings cars for leading
If your not fussy colour /specific spec you can get some great deals for around 150 a month
With these you put down down 3 month car if whatever the car rental is so ifs its150. Per month then you pay a one off £450 up front & a admin fee of around £150. Then the monthly payments and insurance /petrol

It's normally 10,000 a year and includes tax AA

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2014 20:40

It's rare for nannies to have huge cars big enough to have 4 children and car seats

A lot of nannies I know including myself have cars during working
Hours but a few who don't have an average size car that can get 2 seats in back let alone 3 or 4

Think banger is the way to go and even with buying it and insurance it will costs less theb mileage paid to nanny

Damnautocorrect · 19/12/2014 18:53

Yeah i second that about a banger, my nurse friends cars have been trashed (parking dings, and scrapes, break ins) at the hospitals so now have bangers. Then you have the 'asset' (as its not going to lose much more money) rather then monthly cost and headache every time it gets scratched. The deposit you would put in for the lease would buy a reasonable run around and you'd still have that money in the car rather then loosing it.

Redglitter · 19/12/2014 18:28

Wouldn't you be better just buying a wee banger of a car for yourself for work and let her have your car. I'm sure it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than leasing

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aliceinwonderland56 · 19/12/2014 18:19

I did actually specify that chasingtherainbow, unfortunately the agency didn't seem to retain that message and when she turned up to interview and was otherwise suited to the job (and wanted the job) I had to think outside the box and hence you arrive at this thread. She suggested me using her car in order to make it easier for her to take the position, which as you can see I am trying to find a way round.

I see what you mean now blondes, he uses his to travel for work during day too so unfortunately not...

I am going to look more in depth at the alternative car options, so I think I've got this covered now.... thanks!

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FunkyBoldRibena · 19/12/2014 18:16

though I did ask him to ask his boss if they had a spare pool car to loan me instead of leasing a car, which sadly was no!

Eh? You really asked him this?

then you drive dh company car, nanny has your car and dh has nannys car

Eh?

OP - get a nanny that has a car big enough to do the job, or get a car for her to use.

chasingtherainbow · 19/12/2014 18:07

I have to be honest as a nanny I REALLY wouldn't let my boss use my car. As someone said before, it's her responsibility to get to work. After that it's down to you. I really think you should have specified that the nanny needed a big enough car when advertising.

I know she's agreed in principle now- but she's wanting to secure a job and I'm certain that this arrangement would begin to grate very quickly. . And then she'll be stuck.

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2014 17:44

you can often buy cars for £500 and have a years mot etc on them, my dp 25yr son has done it a few times, maybe worth doing that then finding a lease/loan amount each month

meant can nanny not swap with dh car, if his miles isnt many/maybe he leaves at station etc, then you drive dh company car, nanny has your car and dh has nannys car

youarekiddingme · 19/12/2014 17:29

I would buy a cheaper runaround for you and let nanny use the motability car. From what you've written the car is because you have a disabled child? So the car should be used for them anyway.

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aliceinwonderland56 · 19/12/2014 17:20

busyDays, you would think! They also need Ofsted registration because of the NHS childcare Bursary system, which seems to be harder to come by.

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aliceinwonderland56 · 19/12/2014 17:10

Blondes, OH's company car is from employer, not se, so not able to let Nanny use that as he uses it every day (though I did ask him to ask his boss if they had a spare pool car to loan me instead of leasing a car, which sadly was no!).

purpleroses, paying own fuel on a lease car would be cheaper than paying mileage and means Nanny doesn't have to worry about my mileage depreciating her car too.

I think leasing a car will be the best option then and probably cheaper. Thank you for your help peeps :)

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busyDays · 19/12/2014 17:05

If previous nannies have all had big enough cars then wouldn't the cheapest option be to find a different nanny who also has a big enough car?

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2014 16:53

and yes would pay for petrol but 160 miles would prob cost op £15/20 a week ie 1/3 tank

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2014 16:52

after 10k miles it goes down to think 25p, so you wouldnt reach that

also not sure if i would be happy as a nanny even if being paid mileage for my car to have all those extra miles on it

why cant nanny use dh car? im normally put on the companys work car?

dont know about the tax implications as a student

purpleroses · 19/12/2014 16:47

You'd still pay for petrol with a lease car surely?

purpleroses · 19/12/2014 16:45

I think it's her job just to get herself to work really. And your job to pay for the running of both cars that are needed to get to your own job and for the nanny to transport your DC around whilst she works for you. So I'd offer to pay a milage on hers that you're borrowing. The Inland Revenue rates are less per mile after a certain number of miles in the year though I think.

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aliceinwonderland56 · 19/12/2014 16:34

Not sure about the expenses side of things, it's not something I know a lot about, is that just for those who are se? As a student, I'm not sure where I fall as far as tax and VAT are.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2014 16:12

sure a car would be cheap to lease

my dp leases a 2014 van (big one as does property maintenance and needs for tools etc) and pays £248 a month

it is also a tax perk for him as se, so maybe you can put it down as exspenses?

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aliceinwonderland56 · 19/12/2014 14:29

She definitely needs it every day, school run is a 5-10min drive away. My work/uni is based in two different towns, both 35-45 minutes away so no possibility of her giving me lifts unfortunately. Position is full time.

I wonder if I should look at leasing a car instead for me to use, though have never done that either. It would solve the issue of worrying about her mileage and wonder how much difference it would be financially than paying £70 a week fuel.

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chasingtherainbow · 19/12/2014 13:49

Does the nanny need to drive your kids? Is it a FT position

FannyFanakapan · 19/12/2014 13:48

Can nanny drive you to work with kids in car, or drive you to the station and collect you later?

OutragedFromLeeds · 19/12/2014 13:42

Does the nanny absolutely need a car everyday?

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aliceinwonderland56 · 19/12/2014 13:12

Ah yes Blondes, I couldn't log in to this one before so I set up a new username which my phone was still logged into. Sorry for the confusion.

This is a concern of mine, the mileage, depreciation of her car, etc. for my car it's not an issue. Previous nanny's haven't had a problem with having a big enough car so this is a new one for us and of course I want to make sure we do it right. Sadly I don't have a Nanny because I can easily afford it, it's because I'm a NHS student based at a hospital down the motorway (hence the distance) and I have an SN child so using a childminder is difficult even though it would save me hassle and money.

OH uses a company car so can't use his either. Our only other option is not use her car at all and try and use trains and taxis but with my shift work that's also tricky.

Making sure its right and everything is covered is my main priority, as well as making sure this is the right option for the kids (and that I have some money left to buy food lol!)

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Damnautocorrect · 19/12/2014 11:21

Wow 160 miles a week, her cars going to depreciate massively, need servicing and maintaining more.
Surely another car would be better and just insure her on yours?

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/12/2014 11:20

Have you name changed op?

Yes mb is mum boss and paid for it

You are going to do a lot of miles and costs be high. Obv there's wear and tear of car hence why pence per mile which covers it. Yours would be about £70 per week on the mileage you state

Tbh most nannies can't get 4 kids in cars so think you need to supply a car

Can dh swap cars if he leave his at station for example?

Or a 3rd car?