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Au-pair in London - duties and pocket money

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Minki · 25/11/2014 19:59

Just about to hire an au-pair for my 4 and 6 year old and wanted to check what I am offering is ok. She will be looking after them from 3-7pm 5 days per week plus babysitting once a week or fortnight. I told her that I also expect her to help the kids keep their rooms clean and tidy (and the parts (kitchen, lounge etc) and to do the kids laundry (but not ironing as we have a cleaner who does all the ironing). When she is looking after the children I would expect her to do the usual things, i.e collect from school, park, playdates, homework, cook them dinner, bath etc. I may also ask her to run errands occasionally, e.g. get bits and pieces of shopping etc. For this I was going to pay her 80 per week plus 20 towards travel. 20 is basically enough for a bus pass but not a full travelcard which is about 32 but she will not need to use the tube for the job, only the bus and even then only a couple of times a week as everywhere is within walking distance. She looked a bit dismayed when I said I didn't want to pay for a full travelcard. She will be doing a language course 5 mornings a week (9-1pm) so I think she wanted all travel paid. She will only have to top up by 11 I guess. Travel is expensive though and I often think twice about whether I need a travelcard! Obviously we will also pay for her food etc and she will have accommodation (double room overlooking the garden, sharing a bathroom with the kids) plus phone etc. Does this all sound ok or should I fork out for a full travelcard? It would mean that I am spending 110 a week on pocket money and travel, plus food (estimate at least 30) which isn't that far off what I would pay for a live out after-school nanny. Stony broke so cost is factor but want to make sure she is fairly compensated. Also a bit worried about the language course as it means she will never be able to help out in the morning. I was intending to do the school run most days but would have liked her to cover 1-2 days per week so that i can go into work early, or on time even. Any views?

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Minki · 25/11/2014 22:54

We live centralish and near lots of shops/restaurants/parks/libraries etc, so she won't be trapped in the house! I thought £80 a week for the going rate for au-pairs and she is not doing household duties other than directly relating to the kids. I often think twice about buying a travelcard as it's so expensive. I am well aware of the cost of a nanny as I was previously paying £200 a week for 20 hours (tax and NI are not that much on that salary) but, given that I will be paying at least £140 (assuming she only costs me £30 a week in food) plus phone, so lets say £150 plus I have the (sorry) inconvenience of someone living in my house, I think I might be better off with a nanny. Is a saving of £50 a week worth having someone live in? Not sure. Also, it's a lovely room/house/area, which I think would easily cost £700 or £800 a month if she was renting. I actually thought she was getting a pretty good deal. She would be working only 4 hours a day for free food, accommodation and travel, plus get to study. Am I missing something?

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jendot2 · 25/11/2014 21:27

I also think if you live in London a travel card should be part of the 'deal' topping up £11 when you earn £80 a week is a huge chunk of your earnings.
Without a travel card you will most likely have a bored and miserable au pair lounging around your house!
£20 hours, plus babysitting, plus household duties and any 'morning' hours you want her to do with children who are 4 and 6 (which is quite a lot of responsibility for an au air) are top whack hours for an au pair and £80 is a fairly low ish pay range in London. You stand more chance of keeping an au pair if you can include some perks with the job.

OhReallyDear · 25/11/2014 20:24

I think the travel card is part of the deal. She is paid almost nothing (and £80 is not much at all) but it's part of the deal. In exchange, you give her a room, food and a travel card. The travel card is not supposed to cover the journeys she does when working (she is not a nanny), but is supposed to allow her to visit the city. If you think it is expensive to pay the 12 pounds extra for the travel card, what do you think she feels when she is paid 80 freaking pounds a week?

eeyore12 · 25/11/2014 20:13

An after school nanny for those hours would cost you approx a min of £200 a week net so you would need to add tax and ni and employers ni on top of that so your au pair is much cheaper overall.

I am a nanny and would do all you are asking of her which I think is a lot to be honest, they are there to help you out as well as learn the language etc so you can't really say she can't do the language course and I would pay for a full travel card to as then she can go out and meet new friends etc, otherwise if it was me and I had to pay for it myself I just wouldn't go anyway I would need to use it so would prob be around in your home a lot more.

i am sure someone who has an au pair will be along soon to offer their view but to me I think you need to offer more money say £90 a week at least for all you would like done plus a full travelcard.

NecesitoDormir · 25/11/2014 20:08

Can you not split the difference?