Would this work?

Nanny with own child may work...if their child is an early bird or they are very local or could leave their bubba with dad while doing the earliest part of the job? are you sure an au pair or mothers help cannot become Ofsted registered? Some au pairs are quite qualified (with European qualifications)? Not sure how quickly or easily one can complete the nanny qualification required by Ofsted but I don't think it's rocket science?

I'm known irl to some of the other nannies on this board.
Sometimes it's about finding a job you enjoy. I'm not looking atm, so it's irrelevant. It is worth noting though that not all nannies would run from this job.

drink your milk, that's hopeful for the OP sure, but I think if you truly have 20 years experience and you are willing to take 8 gross you are underselling yourself.

I took that in my first job 8 years ago, I certainly wouldn't now.

I think your dh being a sahd might be the best idea for now x

Lougle how would DH feel about being a full time SAHD? It seems mad to pay someone else as much as he earns (or more) unless he really wants to work and if he does, I would suggest him finding a different part time job - longer full days, that would be more easily covered by a nanny.

Good luck

I need this exact same hours for childcare - sorry to say I pay my nanny to stay all day. So she has a few empty hours (she does shopping, washing etc in that time) but in order to give her a living wage we compromise as she is a fab nanny.

I am then comfortable that she can cover if ds is off sick, and during holidays.

I know that is not what you want to hear but i think you will struggle to find someone.

You could try and find a childcare student if you have a big college nearby to get them to do an early shift and another student for the late one?

I'm going to go against the grain. I'm an experienced nanny (20 years- and mostly sen positions as it happens). I would consider the position as it stands so long as i was local (ish).

What a very tricky situation for you all :(

unfortunately the others are right, and I think even if you did find someone- unless by some chance it works perfectly for them they may leave you in the lurch so to speak, when they secure a FT position, or even part time but full days. I think the additional stress would worry you, and since you can't offer a premium wage to appeal, I'm not sure how successful your search would be.

I hope you manage to figure something out do that you can retrain.

So you need to leave about 7 and wouldn't be back till past 6 - is the course fulltime or can it have any flexibility? is there one nearer, to cut down on commute time? No willing neighbours who'd help with the early school run?

Can the school bus for your DD collect from a different place (childminder)?

Ofsted registration for an au pair or mothers help sounds like best option if you can't have any flexibility in the mornings.

Can your DH look for a daytime job?

Could you get more help if DH became a sahp?

Becoming Ofsted registered is quite easy and you don't actually have to be a nanny iyswim, so you could recruit a mother's help/au pair/local mum/granny and help them to become Ofsted registered. It would probably cost you about £250 in initial costs. If your DH can get childcare vouchers from work, you would be able to use those to pay some of your £45 of the fees.

The other alternative would be going for someone live-in, either an au pair plus or a newly qualified nanny, again you'd probably need to help them become Ofsted registered.

Lougle, I have just been through exactly the same issues.

I needed someone to help out mornings and afternoons as the school runs were getting untenable, bit not so much during the middle of the day.

I have ended up with a full time (7.45am-6pm) nanny, 5 days a week. Currently we share the school runs, as obvs dd1 and dd2 are at different schools, and she looks after ds in the middle of the day while I get some work done (OU). I really really want to retrain as a SALT, but I can't make the hours work without sending dd1 on transport, which is not right for her (yet).

I agree there is more chance of you finding two different people for the job, as I can't see any nanny wanting a split shift. You are right, plenty of people do similar jobs (I used to myself) but I can't see you getting many takers.

Have you tried advertising on childcare.co.uk?

Also, have you looked at the average wage nannies ask for for your area? £8gross is on the low side, which will also impact on your chances of finding someone.

Is there no way you can do the morning bit and drop dd2 at a childminder when you drop dd3, your dh could then collect from there?
Then just advertise for a p/t nanny for the afternoon 2-6:30ish?

honestly i think you will find this very hard, and esp if you need ofsted reg, ie cuts out a 'granny/older lady' to take care of them at your home

the early start isnt nice, so any nanny is likely to be up at 5.30am to get there unless literally 2 mins down the road (unlikely) and then needs to find another job 10-2 to make salary up

if you were paying a good wage, ie at least £12gross for those hours and round up to 8hr day then possibly have better luck

but the average qualifed/ofsted nanny will need to earn more then £60per day/300gross a week as will find it so hard to fit in any other jobs - this will work out less then £50 take home a day

a newly qualified nanny may be interested in this but i wouldnt employ a new out of college 18yr ish to look after 3 children including one with sn

It's not very likely IMO.

A) 6.30am is an early start for most nannies. Generally 8am-6pm as standard, so need to pay a premium.

B) £8 gross is very low for a nanny esp looking after child with sn and early start and split shifts. In London it's more like £13-14 gross for standard nanny job, so if out I would say £10-11 gross.

C) part time nannies usually earn more per hour. So a full time nanny might get £13 gross but part time £14.50 gross.

D) no one likes spilt shifts when they can work for another family and be paid full time. Generally someone on your day would work 6.30-10 am with children. 10-2pm batch cooking/sorting children laundry/ etc, plus lunch break. 2-6pm with children again. Paid for all hours

Your best option is someone 6.30-10am. Then different person 2-6pm. You might find someone with own child who would work for low wage if they can bring own child with them

I think there is no harm in advertising for this post. It is a free market for nannies and you might get someone who wants to do it. However, I think that you need to take heed of the comments on here about it not being very appealing on the whole.

Not many people like a 6.30 am start. In most cases people take on an early start because it means that they can have finished a day's work by mid afternoon. But in your case you want them to disappear somewhere for several hours and then come back to keep working until 6.30pm. What your DH earns or is prepared to do for a living is nothing to do with it.

I think that splitting the job into morning/evening is likely to be your best bet. Or, biting the bullet and paying for the whole day.

how about finding a CM who could take dd1 to your house in time for bus, much as they would a school run.
Then all 3 go to CM early on, CM takes children to school / bus and then brings other child home at tennish?
Is 5 yo not at school?

I would look for a 'mother's help' rather than a qualified nanny. Look on Gumtree.

You're right they probably won't. There are thousands of parents that only need a nanny a few hours a day (me included) but nannies generally want a FT job so to secure a good nanny you have to pay them a FT wage.
Some nannies may take on more of a housekeeping role when DCs are at school (mine has) which means it's not total dead time but you will find it hard to persuade someone to do split shifts because IME the good nannies have their pick of the jobs which includes those that offer a FT salary with several hours free time a day.

Depends what else they have on. Might be easier than the split shifts. Alternatively could you consider an au pair?