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Paediatric Nanny with own child

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 15:43

Would you really only pay me £5ph because I'm bringing my own child? I mean really a paediatric nurse with lots of experience? Are you having a laugh feel abit insulted. I'm in London btw and was not expecting the full amount and happy to take a pay cut but £5 really?

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 19:11

Its shocking Blondes it really is damn right cheeky imo.

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 19:09

I am a nanny I have been one for a year so yes I do have experience and yes I do do agency to keep my hand in just found it stressful with a family.

Anyway whether I'm a nurse, norland nanny or just a nanny the point is some obviously find it acceptable to pay less than minimum wage which I thinks very shitty.

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clam · 17/06/2014 19:08

But if you charged, or were paid, the going rate without your own child, presumably you'd then have to pay for your own childcare on top. Which would leave you much worse off. So don't you need to factor that in?

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2014 19:07

crossed posts,you have had a nanny job but obv not a lot of nanny exp

some parents will try and get away with paying a low/illegal wage, so dont be offended by low offers iyswim

i have over 23yrs exp all sole charge from new borns (including twins) to 11yrs yet i still get mums esp on childcare.co.uk asking me if i would work for nmw (so legal) - erm no - i can command a high salary as im good at my job

Lighthousekeeping · 17/06/2014 19:03

Why do you want to be a nanny can't you do a couple of nights as a nurse agency? If it's money you will be on £20 an hour using all your qualifications.

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 19:02

My other daughter is 10 and doesn't have anything to do with work her dad is around after school and before. Thanks for the advise Cindy. I think the prospect of losing my job I'm feeling crappy at the moment.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2014 19:02

so basically you have no exp/nanny qual, but you have a nurse/ped qual so you thought you would try and be a nanny

the lack of s/c nanny exp is prob why you offered a very low (illegal) wage

obv as a nanny if you are lucky you can take your child to work, as a nurse you cant, is this why you want to change?

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 18:59

Experienced in dealing with tantrums and separation anxiety I've worked on childrens wards. I manage my home so can manage another and have done schools runs to two different schools and nursaries so can show my experience in all those areas.

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Cindy34 · 17/06/2014 18:57

Children? More than one, is going to make it a harder sell in mh view. I know a nanny who has two children but on the days she nannies she does not have any contact with her own children, her DH does the school run.

Get a great reference from your current employer, written plus have them available to provide verbal reference. Ask them about why they choose you, see if you can find out what made you appealing to them.

Cindy34 · 17/06/2014 18:53

Its the managing the home, getting several children to their various schools/activities, experience of dealing with children who are being separated from their parents, tantrums.

Your nursing will certainly have cross over things with nannying but you need to find a way of showing that.

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 18:51

I'm in the process of doing a childminding course so yes a possibilty Devere! I do bank work in hospitals but hate doing 4 nights in a row then catching up with sleep. Want to see my children whilst they are young so i have taken a career break and thought Nannying would be great. With jobs being sort after I want to stand out from the crowd and I have had a great nannying job which comes to an end in July and she loved the fact I had nursing qualifications.

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Cindy34 · 17/06/2014 18:49

Where are you looking for jobs? You may do better going via an agency who can sell your skill set to families.

If you want to do nannying, make sure your CV focuses on your nannying experience not other work.

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 18:46

I didn't say i qualified as a nanny just because I'm a nurse. Reality can you tell me what a nanny does that a children's nurse can't do? What cooking, playing? Maybe keeping them safe? Sorry please explain?

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Deverethemuzzler · 17/06/2014 18:43

Respite foster carer? You would be snapped up if you passed the assessment otherwise.

BrianTheMole · 17/06/2014 18:43

Seems quite low really for london, I would have thought nannies got more than that.

Deverethemuzzler · 17/06/2014 18:42

Your training is a bonus but unfortunately it irrelevant in that its unnecessary for the job.
So unless you are looking for specialist positions it doesn't make you worth more.

I work with children with complex needs and there is a total lack of childcare available. Have you thought about specialist childminding if childcare for your own child is an issue?

It doesn't pay brilliantly but child care rarely does.

BrianTheMole · 17/06/2014 18:42

Why wouldn't you go back to nursing? Surely that pays more? And yes I think £8 per hour is fair with child, £10 without.

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 18:39

I have been advertising and approached but this one just upset me maybe my experience is irelevant but it's shocking people are willing to pay so little :(

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Blondeshavemorefun · 17/06/2014 18:37

prob is nett to gross changes with the amount of hours, so yes at 40hrs it is £5.27 gross but at 60hrs if a 12hr day times 5 it is £5.96 gross, either way still under nmw

yes a nwoc generally gets 10/20% less, age /area/exp depending

all nannies should have ped first aid, prob 60% do, for an average family they dont need a qual nurse as a nanny

saying that yes obv you should be paid legally so above nmw

if you are struggling to get a job maybe you need to lower your salary to 8gross

Realitybitesyourbum · 17/06/2014 18:37

You sound a bit stroppy to be honest! I don't know why you would think being a nurse qualifies you as a nanny. Two different skill sets imho

TravellingToad · 17/06/2014 18:32

So why are you applying for jobs that pay so little? Can you not apply for a job with a higher hourly rate?

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Tallulaxx · 17/06/2014 18:16

As a trained paeds nurse I've done all the training ie paediatric immediate life support, safeguarding level 3 and child developement etc so have a high level of training which I think is a big bonus alongside my experience of working in hospitals with children and families of all ages and abilitities both sick and healthy. so if thats not enough experience as well as being a mother and having nannying experience I don't know what is? I think I'm worth more than the bare minimum.

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TravellingToad · 17/06/2014 18:07

I'd rather have a nanny who was a nanny, than a paediatric nurse, which i'd see as (almost) totally irrelevant (unless child had a chronic illness)

£5 net is £5.27 gross so you'd need to point out it was below the NMW

Soggysandpit · 17/06/2014 18:01

minimum wage is gross so £5 per hour net probably isn't much below it (don't know the figures). I understood that NWOC get about 3/4 of what a nanny without own child gets.

Deverethemuzzler · 17/06/2014 16:38

Ah. Thanks. Get it now Smile

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