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Sacked the AP, atmosphere in house.

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BoffinMum · 24/04/2014 13:06

Just that, really.
Bit stressed.

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BoffinMum · 26/04/2014 18:54

Leeds, I think it must be our Satanic worship rituals, chicken slaughtering, insistence on preparing austerity roadkill in the slow cooker for supper and our regular holidays in North Korea that are tipping them over the edge. Perhaps I should have realised this earlier. Grin

Blondes, I was not going to SNIFF THEM! Perhaps they were just snot. But the quantity of them and the fact they were in the top drawer near his bed looked very strange.

And Shock about the use of piss to blow things up. I never knew that. You learn summat on MN every day, I tell you.

Interview did not go too well earlier but a nanny agency lady has rung and was very sympathetic to our plight, so she might find someone to tide us over the immediate period of stress.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 26/04/2014 15:29

Been away for the weekend and just caught up

Pmsl @ wank tissues - tho how do you know what bodily fluid it is? Maybe snot not sperm?

As you know I adore hammies and had them for years - a little concerned where hammy is? :(

  1. dh did keep the odd bottle of piss (in shed) apparently goo for making bombs / gunpowder / blowing up things ......
cowsarescary · 26/04/2014 12:58

I'm mildly disappointed. I though Boff and Bon meant a Teletubby Noo-Noo.

Which, frankly, does seem like perfect a child/house/sanity care-provider solution to me.

OutragedFromLeeds · 26/04/2014 12:02

Are you sure that there isn't some sort of evil spirit resident in your house, slowly driving these people mad? I'm thinking along the lines of The Shining? There are bad nannies,au pairs/childminders out there of course, but for one person to have employed ALL of them seems beyond bad luck. Not just bad ones either, crazy, psychotic ones! Who all appear normal at interview/to the agency and then slowly get weirder the longer they're in your home....maybe what you need is an exorcism?

Bonsoir · 26/04/2014 08:55

I think when you have both a housekeeper and an au pair that you divide the responsibilities along the lines of what is done collectively for the whole family (meals, general housekeeping, laundry) and what is specific to the children (tidying their rooms - or supervising the DC tidying them!), the children's ironing, folding and putting away of clothes, "babysitting" (may just be keeping them company), delivering/collecting from school and activities, supervising playdates...

RandomMess · 26/04/2014 08:55

Hope you find some fantastic people. Sometimes I am very grateful for my very small house and simple life! We just need breakfast club and school holiday club fortunately.

BoffinMum · 26/04/2014 08:41

Did not sleep very well after all the nastiness of yesterday, but interviewing a replacement this morning. Also had an application from potential housekeeper. Wondering how best to draw demarcation lines between AP job and housekeeper job.

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BoffinMum · 26/04/2014 08:40
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Bonsoir · 25/04/2014 22:46
Grin

I can recognise the benches and the trees...

Goldmandra · 25/04/2014 21:38

Leave the cage open where you found it or close by with food in tit. If he's released it you may find it has come home in the morning.

BoffinMum · 25/04/2014 21:17

So sorry, Happy!

No sign of hamsters, frigging or otherwise.

DH suspects it may be second hand cage. I bloody hope so as keeping a pet under the bed would be pretty cruel.

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happyyonisleepyyoni · 25/04/2014 20:35

Boffinmum, I thought that link would be to a French childcare website - what a disappointment!

AuntFidgetWonkhamStrongNajork · 25/04/2014 20:20

So you've found a nounou but what about the frigging hamster?

BoffinMum · 25/04/2014 20:09

HERE THEY ARE!!

Les Nounous au Parc Monceau

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BoffinMum · 25/04/2014 20:07

Bonsoir, would I have to push DC4 round in a Silver Cross coach built pram (poor sod is 5 but I could squash him in and put one of the smart outfits on him his grandma buys) and wear a well cut tweed suit myself to get attention in the Parc Monceau from these delightful beings? And why do they leave their jobs in June?

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BoffinMum · 25/04/2014 20:03

My cleaner is a bloke actually, who owns his own business, and who Does Not Do Childcare. Memorably I entertained his eldest once for two hours while he cleaned for me. He turned up and presented me with the lad, and said, "I knew it would be alright as you are an educationalist". I was a bit nonplussed. Obviously I find children endlessly fascinating, and indeed he was a charming boy, albeit with a slight speech delay that I managed to work with him on for the duration, but it was a bit topsy-turvy as a setup. I am lucky he hasn't brought his two semi-delinquent dogs over for pet therapy, frankly. Hmm

You may be interested to know that I have put an advert for a p/t housekeeper on Gumtree. I have had two very good p/t housekeepers in the past who both stayed with me for some years, and they were great at being supportive domestically whilst also keeping an eye on Other Employees. If I could find another one I would really have started organising a much better setup here, I think. I have a book contract to fulfil and I am sending a LOT of time on domestic stuff, and it is really starting to worry me.

However I do wish a Nou Nou would magically appear on a park bench for me. I am curious as to what they are paid and how the relationship is managed. Perhaps Bonsoir can tell us a bit more.

Update on current situation here: boys are worried the hamster is roaming then house untended and uncared for. However none of them seems to give a stuff about the AP that has just left, which possibly says something. I think he didn't engage much with the older ones apart from to bark occasional commands at them. Jury is out on the fluids. Looked like wee to me, frankly. DS1 reckons that and the fact we found drawer after drawer full of recycling suggests a kind of weird OCD which DS1 no doubt learned about on Reddit.

Life is never dull chez Boff. I am filled with joy that I don't have to look at that bugger's miserable face at the end of the meal table every evening, and force conversation. He really was a bore. Have invited previous, rather jolly AP back but I think she already has a summer job Sad.

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happyyonisleepyyoni · 25/04/2014 19:58

I need a nounou as explained by Bonsoir...my dream!

NomDeClavier · 25/04/2014 19:54

My old French agency used to distinguish between nounou, nourrice and 'nurse'. Nounous do housework, nourrices do childcare only and a 'nurse' is trained. I suspect nurse is an import of nursery nurse.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 25/04/2014 19:26

I have a nounou and I didn't even realise it!

She is polish - my very excellent cleaner who has expanded her role somewhat. Sadly she only comes twice a week.

In all seriousness, what's your cleaner like boffin? Could she step into the breach if needs be in the future?

Bonsoir · 25/04/2014 19:10

Nounou is a shortened version of Nourrice, which is technically a Wet Nurse but also means a Nanny.

There are some Nounous who just do childcare and I do know some families who refer to la Nourrice in those cases.

ConfusedPixie · 25/04/2014 19:08

Shock at this AP!

I love nounou! My French teacher told me to use that term as she couldn't work out what else I would be, glad I know what it means now? If there is a French word for a Nanny though that somebody happens to know I'd appreciate being told! Grin

Bonsoir · 25/04/2014 18:34

A nounou is a FT French nanny/housekeeper - really a sort of full time mother's help - who typically does all the cleaning, laundry, ironing and much of the daily cooking and clearing up after meals. Also minds the DC - picks them up from school (though doesn't do morning drop-off as morning drop-off is an important hallmark of good parenting in France) and takes them to after school activities, gives them their bath and dinner.

happyyonisleepyyoni · 25/04/2014 18:24

What is a Nounou, I think I want one!

OddFodd · 25/04/2014 18:15

Boff - I think you'll be able to tell whether it's urine or oil by looking at the viscosity of the liquid. In any event, I'd take everything straight to the dump, bypassing your household recycling facilities.

I'm dying to know what this bloke seemed like when you interviewed him. :o On the upside, you've entertained lots of people on the internet AND a frankly bonkers person is no longer living in your house. Result! Flowers

Bonsoir · 25/04/2014 18:12

I'm sure a Nounou would suit you down to the ground, Boffin and wish you much luck. If your agency fails to deliver, I suggest hanging around on a bench in Parc Monceau towards the end of June when Nounous are looking for new employment - they regularly approach people who look like potential employers.

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