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I'm an AP and I am wondering whether any of this is normal(long)

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QueenieRae · 27/01/2014 19:19

Hi all, would welcome some advice from people with experience of an AP. To set the scene, I'm an English AP in Western Europe and have been for two months now. There are three kids, 5, 10 and 13. After checking the guidelines for my host country online I am wondering whether I need to leave ASAP or if I'm just being a bit precious.

The good:
The youngest kid is lovely.
The mother is a SAHM.
I am allowed to attend a language course once a week.
I have a lovely large room with a balcony and shared use of the kids' bathroom.
I think my language skills are improving.

The slightly iffy:
I am paid 150 Euros a month. The internet seems to suggest I should be on at least 50Euro a week.
I have to pay for all my transport and language course.
I am expected to clean the house fully 4 times a week. This includes hoovering, polishing, cleaning the bathrooms, cleaning the kitchen floor, hob and oven, and dusting.
I do a lot of cooking, unless the family go out for dinner.
I babysit most evenings.

The uncomfortable:
I am not allowed to eat with the family, but eat whatever the kids leave from the meal. I'm also not allowed to help myself to anything.
The middle child is almost 9 stone(!). There don't tend to be leftovers.
I haven't actually had a paid day off yet. That said, the host family count my morning language course as time off.
I am not allowed to shut my bedroom door, ever. I change in the bathroom.
The older children are possibly psychopathic. Due to an 'accident' where one jumped on me while the other tripped me I now have a broken wrist. I was taken to hospital yesterday and now the parents have gone away for the week leaving me in charge of the kids.

I have little way of knowing whether I'm a good AP or not. Maybe I'm just crap or everything has been unlucky. That said, I have a broken wrist and I've lost almost a stone and a half.

To be honest, I'll probably leave before I was supposed to, but rational talking would be welcome.

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PicardyThird · 27/01/2014 21:49

You need to make it clear to the grandmother that you are leaving immediately and that responsibility has now passed to her until she gets hold of her daughter and son-in-law.

The 10 and 13yo are under the age of criminal responsibility (which is 14), so the police won't be interested, but you could certainly speak to the police about the parents' 'Verletzung der Aufsichtspflicht' over their children (= failure to supervise properly).

expatinscotland · 27/01/2014 21:44

Pack up and bail when they are at school. Relocate the cat. You owe them NOTHING. They are abusive. I think the police need to find out about these older two.

PicardyThird · 27/01/2014 21:44

Oh, it's one of those families - desperate to raise kids with fluent English because they think it will let them get ahead but not interested in treating the person they use to achieve that with any respect Angry That said, this is taking disrespect to a whole new level, tbh. It sounds a little bit like they can't really afford you but are so desperate for the English that they are relying on you putting up and shutting up. I really hope the grandmother puts a rocket up her daughter. Angry

LtGreggs · 27/01/2014 21:43

Well done you - good start.

(Overnight babysitting might be fine - if you've not got a broken wrist, are happy yourself with the situation, it's for a night not a week, and you have back - up contact details and cash provided... Think you might need to build up some confidence in your ability to make decisions about what is and is not Ok for you to take responsibility for.)

QueenieRae · 27/01/2014 21:41

I really appreciate the offer portofino. I'll let you know if that's a viable option x

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mousmous · 27/01/2014 21:41

ok, pack your bags.
make a list of usefull phone numbers, adresses, bus and coach time tables.
charge your phone.
take the kids to school and leave.

QueenieRae · 27/01/2014 21:39

The grandmother sounds nice although she has no English. I've spoken to the kindergarten teachers before when the kid got sent home with a headache and they sound quite caring

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PortofinoRevisited · 27/01/2014 21:39

I am in Brussels. If you can get to me on the bus/train, I will feed you and ensure you get safely home.

QueenieRae · 27/01/2014 21:37

Right. Quick phone call later the grandmother says that she will come over tomorrow first thing and that she will try to call her daughter.

I am quite placid, you're right. I've been dealing with this family for two months and my life got easier when i plonked the three children in front of a tv and didnt have the adults around. I was under the impression from a russian AP i met that overnight babysitting isnt unusual.

I have another appointment in two weeks to change the type of cast from a split-plaster thing into a bandage splint.

The parents speak english around the house. The older kids are really good at english, the younger one uses denglisch and charades. I have rusty A level German.

If I take 5yo to school tomorrow I will talk to his school about my concerns.

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mousmous · 27/01/2014 21:32

do you know other au pairs in your area?
ask around for jobs or lifts.
as to getting home, eurolines coaches are pretty cheap.
wrt to the children look up 'jugendamt' (children's services) of your area in case you need/want to leave before the parents are back.

when I was an au pair in the us I drove an au pair I met once before to the airport as she was kicked out by her family in the middle of the night

LtGreggs · 27/01/2014 21:31

Thanks Picardy - am cross posting with you and realise you know the German system - I am extrapolating from experience of having young primary kids in UK.

Stopfighting · 27/01/2014 21:31

You owe this family NOTHING!!!

I think it's a very bad idea to show your hand to the grandparents. They WILL tell the parents..

If you really have no money at all, perhaps the only option is to hang on in there until payday, take the kids to school and then never go back. Whatever chain of events that causes is not your concern.
Poor you!!!

expatinscotland · 27/01/2014 21:31

You sound like you've been abused in the past and learned to keep quiet to not rock the boat Sad.

PicardyThird · 27/01/2014 21:29

Last sentence was to OP, obviously.

PicardyThird · 27/01/2014 21:29

LtGreggs - it's possible the school might not care (I know Shock), assuming both older children are at secondary. The youngest one won't be at school yet. If you decide to hang on until tomorrow morning (I don't recommend, btw), I would speak to someone senior at the youngest child's kindergarten, or to the 10yo's school if he or she is still at primary.

LtGreggs · 27/01/2014 21:25

The kids are the responsibility of their parents - this situation is their doing not yours. If it's concern about getting yourself in to trouble that stops you escalating this to social services - that's absolutely not right. (it's worse to think that kind of intervention is needed and not seek it - even if it were you at fault)

If you think you need that kind of input it is going to be a nerve - wracking thing to do. I know nothing about Germany, but I'd go for dropping kids at school, walking to school office and saying that you need emergency meeting with head / senior teacher and will wait until they can see you. (unless you need police out tonight - bur from what you've said I don't get that impression)

PicardyThird · 27/01/2014 21:25

Put it this way, Queenie. If you happened to be my neighbour's AP (you're not, btw, I'm certain of that, partly because none of my neighbours have APs!) and I found out what the situation was in their house at the moment, I would be round there, getting hold of the parents by any means possible, and yes, probably calling the police and the Jugendamt. You are sounding unnaturally placid about all of this.

ggirl · 27/01/2014 21:25

have you got a full plaster cast? can you fly?
bit random ..but do you have a follow up appt in the hospital that the parents need to take you to?

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expatinscotland · 27/01/2014 21:22

I'd call the police. Now.

expatinscotland · 27/01/2014 21:21

When he's in a good mood?! Queenie, he and his sibling tripped you and jumped on you and broke your wrist. You need to get out NOW.

Disturb them away! I wouldn't have gone home from hospital, I'd have told the doctors what these children had done.

PhoebeMcPeePee · 27/01/2014 21:21

Poor you Hmm I would be telling eldest child that you have to leave for the UK tomorrow (don't offer but I think personal reasons is adequate) & you need to speak to a family member urgently tonight. Then ring family member & tell them you are leaving tomorrow & someone needs to come & look after the children. That's if you don't like expats excellent advice.

PicardyThird · 27/01/2014 21:21

You sound as if you are scared of these kids, sweetheart. This is very, very not good.

PicardyThird · 27/01/2014 21:19

You can ring your local police station - google the number (Polizeiwache plus your town/nearest town) - and ask for advice. Jugendämter tend to have emergency evening or 24h hotlines for people concerned about a child's welfare.

Do you know where the parents have gone?

PortofinoRevisited · 27/01/2014 21:19

I have a 9 year old - she can follow a recipe with me supervising. The older one certainly should be able to knock up something for dinner. How are you conversing with the children if your German is not up to a phone call?

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