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A bit miffed with CM

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ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand · 16/10/2013 22:25

Not sure if I was taking it personally but I'm a bit miffed with my CM. This is the third time I've been to pick up Dc and she sort of just pushed Dc out of the door, handed me the diary and bag and shut the door.

Now I get everyone has bad days etc. but I normally get a quick debrief on picking up. Dropping off was similar in that Dc was ushered in and the door shut. Didn't ask how Dc had been etc. I'm not sure if I've done anything wrong or if I should even raise it with her tomorrow. Tell me I'm being unreasonable.

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MaryPoppinsBag · 19/10/2013 11:08

Did you not take your child for a visit before he started there?

Blondeshavemorefun · 19/10/2013 10:00

I think you need to go in and see what the set up is like - ie check for safety - gates - what the garden is like etc

Normally a parent would see the inside of the cm house when interviewin / checking them out

Obv you didn't do that as she came to you for the first 4 mths

Have you done a new contract - old one would have said xxx cared In your house ie a nanny - ie you employed her and paid her tax and ni and she would have got paid holidays

You need a new cm contract now - sayin gross wage and what happened about holiday etc

MaryPoppinsBag · 19/10/2013 08:30

My parents don't come in they don't want to. They are invited in if mindee is in the middle of something.

Mind boggles at what you think I could be hiding! Wink

Jaynebxl · 19/10/2013 07:21

Personally I wouldn't feel comfy using a cm who never let me in. We had two separate cms and both welcomed us in for a quick chat while putting on coats and shoes. It meant that I knew they were open and had nothing to hide. In fact our last cm looked after a couple of other children too and if I wasn't the last to pick up I'd often sitnon the sofa and have a bit of a chat, at her invitation. I always figured that after a fullnday with little people she quite fancied a few minutes adult company. Again it all helped increase my feeling that my cm was really open and had nothing to hide.

MaryPoppinsBag · 19/10/2013 06:44

Just speak to her. Easier than speculating on the Internet. Smile

ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand · 18/10/2013 23:26

forresitters Sorry my last post wasn't aimed at you. More of a general answer to multiple insinuations questions above.

I haven't been to other parts of the house because of the initial setup we had, where she came to me. It doesn't bother me as parts of the house are partly visible from door iykwim. Other than this Dc loves going to the CM, so I can't say that I am too worried about anything untoward.

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Ragusa · 18/10/2013 22:46

OP says she has never seen other parts of house, only the hall...

moogy1a · 18/10/2013 22:37

There's never any excuse for not having a quick chat at the door, though.

moogy1a · 18/10/2013 22:34

I think all people using a CM look round the house first, don't they? Also, OFSTED won't register someone whose house looks like a channel 5 documentary!

Ragusa · 18/10/2013 22:29

Not just normal mess you should see our house ....hoardy-type or unhygenic mess.

moogy1a · 18/10/2013 22:28

birdy my parents all have a good look round before they sign up and if they ever want to come in for a chat they give me a ring to say they'll come for pick up half an hour early so they can come in, have a chat and be out the door on time.

moogy1a · 18/10/2013 22:26

TBH I would be concerned that she has somwthing in there she doesn't want you to see: mounds of mess, a new partner, TVs blaring in every room, I dunno...... something! But then I have got a suspicious mind.
mounds of mess is normal at the end of a CM day!! It's one of the reasons my parents don't come in the house ( and that mindees are likely to kick off / not want to leave if parents come in).

birdybear · 18/10/2013 22:24

i wouldn't let anyone look after my child unless i knew what their home was like?!

Ragusa · 18/10/2013 22:21

TBH I would be concerned that she has somwthing in there she doesn't want you to see: mounds of mess, a new partner, TVs blaring in every room, I dunno...... something! But then I have got a suspicious mind.

Ragusa · 18/10/2013 22:17

Ok then I think you are justified to feel put out - I don't understand the hard time you are getting on here Confused. Time for a chat with her I think.

And if it's not working out don't feel obliged to stay with her. You shpuldn't be made to feel uncomfy by the person who cares for your DC. Gotta be an open and and communicative relationship IME.

Forresitters · 18/10/2013 22:12

OP I wasn't trying to have a go at you so my apologies if that's how it came across but I was simply trying to put myself in your CM's shoes and give an example of why she may handover in that way. Although I have not and would not shut the door in any parent's face/push the child out the door as that is very unprofessional and you shouldn't have to experience that from anyone.
I hope you do get to speak with her and sort out whatever it is that may be going on.
Perhaps you could just ask her if everything is ok with drop off and pick up times and see what she says from there?
If there is something bothering her she should be upfront with you but in all honesty you'd be surprised at how hard some CM's find approaching parents about any issues despite how small they may be.

ForrinForrinerFromForrinLand · 18/10/2013 21:42

I just thought I'd clear a few things up.

Dc doesn't play up on collection.

Ragusa I've been using this CM for about 6 months in total. About 4 months from my home. I'm glad someone agrees with me that the approach was a little rude.

Yes I have been in her hallway only. Up until this incident, it was fairly normal for me to step inside the hallway and grab Dc's bits and have a quick chat with the door closed behind me. I have never traipsed through anyone's house with my outdoor geer, always take shoes off if invited in etc.

I have been late once when stuck and I txt to let her know.

And let me reiterate, I am early as in 3-4 minutes maximum. Not 15-20 mins as some have suggested. And these few minutes are mostly taken up getting Dc out of the car etc.

I've accepted that that's how some CM work. So be it, I've kept the chatting to a simple hi and I've left it at that. And I couldn't care less if this thread outs me, as I've said there's nothing I have said here that isn't what it is iykwim.

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Forresitters · 18/10/2013 21:40

OP also mentions that she arrives a few minutes before pick up time if I'm correct?
My policy is arriving 10 mins before pick up time to allow for handover. I also write a diary but I find parents still insist on asking where we've been and what we've done even though I do tell them it's all written in the diary. I also wouldn't be best pleased if parents arrive on the dot or just 2 mins spare of collection time and then want to have a 10-15min chat in my own spare time.
It sounds to me like she's trying to give you a hint to come a bit earlier or maybe she has something on in the evenings now and needs to rush. It's that whole balance of being a business and having a business relationship - there are some things that a childminder still needs to keep personal and maybe she feels she cannot disclose it with you.

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/10/2013 19:12

Why not just ask her?

If you aren't gettin a hello /smile then weird

But not weird not going in iyswim

SPBisResisting · 18/10/2013 17:07

I don't think the OP wants a long chat, just eye contact and a greeting

Ragusa · 18/10/2013 17:01

Totally different issue if parent is often late or early, I agree, shoving in/out of door in that contextis different.

anewyear · 18/10/2013 15:28

We dont know if the Op is sometimes late/ always late, she hasnt answered that question..

I have one parent who is late at least once a week, last week he was late by nearly 25 minutes, no txt, nothing!! because he popped into Morrisons, which I know for a fact is NOT on his way back.
That particular evening I was going out, only to a friends house, but yes I literally pushed his child out the door, I followed and got into my car and left.
So apologies if some think that rude, But in my opinion so is being late!!!!

Ragusa · 17/10/2013 22:39

Have you been inside her house, much or ever?? It's just that you said that she worked out of your home for 4 months and you've only been using her for six i total.

TBH I would find that sort of approach a bit rude. She may well have good reasons for keeping handover brief, but to advance an alternative POV to many of the posters on here, why hasn't she directly raised any problems with you. ? Shutting the door on someone is just rude!

Bproud · 17/10/2013 21:16

Are you late picking up, or do your DC play up when it is time to leave? I had some mindees from one family that strung out leaving for up to 20 minutes, refusing to put on shoes, messing around while the parent looked on in a bemused manner. I eventually had to resort to having them completely ready and standing in the hall when the parent arrived to pick up.
maybe you should have a set day per week for catch up time with the CM.

minderjinx · 17/10/2013 21:10

Parents arriving early is an issue for me. I get up ridiculously early and do various cleaning and tidying jobs and safety checks (in my pjs) then the last twenty minutes or half an hour is for me to get a shower, dress and make myself presentable. If folk arrive ten minutes early I don't get to do my hair properly or put on a bit of makeup and it makes me feel scruffy all day. If you arrived at school or nursery ten minutes early they just wouldn't open the door, but we have to be sensitive to the fact that early visitors may be disturbing the neighbours or even blocking their drives, so I answer the door and try not to mind - but it is inconsiderate.