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i can't find any live in nannies looking for a job out there in NW London??

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circle100 · 25/09/2013 23:53

I have been advertising for 3 weeks constantly in the usual gumtree, nanny job, childcare etc emailing prospective nannies but for some reason I get no decent responses? Did all the good live in nannies ger jobs prior to September have I missed the boat? I don't get it, everyone seems interested then they just don't respond?
We are a normal easy family 3 kids at school so only 2 hours in the morning and after school needed giving good salary and v good perks???
What am I doing wrong? does no one want a job!
Thanks for advice

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Cindy34 · 27/09/2013 18:17

Consider who this might appeal to, possibly someone studying something and thus wants freetime during the day.

I feel it will be hard to explain things to the nanny, so write it down and include it in the advert. If they have to take all/most holiday in school holidays include that in the ad. If the hours increase during school holidays yet pay stayed the same, then they would be wise to take as much holiday as possible during school holidays, as then they are doing less work overall.

Are you getting applicants but they are unsuitable, or are you not getting applicants at all?

circle100 · 27/09/2013 16:12

well some days its less ie school and in holidays it may be more so it all evens out. I guess a good mothers help may be better as they may be used to free time in the day?
thanks

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iluvkids · 27/09/2013 13:46

London is expensive .. career live in nannies will want 350net at very min

if u offer that and put it on your ads..youll have more interest

iluvkids · 27/09/2013 13:45

as a nanny i cant stand split shifts and only take those roles if they are temp

OutragedFromLeeds · 27/09/2013 13:42

Then it isn't that well paid and there's your problem. If it's 7 hours when they're at school, then 13 hours when they're not? How many school holidays are there? A 65 hour week for £280?! That may be your problem!

Nannies do like a break during the day e.g. lunch and a sit down for an hour while the baby sleeps, but 6 hours isn't a break it's a split-shift.

NomDeClavier · 27/09/2013 13:39

Well most nannies become nannies because they like working with children, often young children, so the whole of the school day means they don't get the fun bits!

It can be a bit demotivating to have lots of free time then very full on during holidays for the same money, but some will prefer a regular income so I don't think that's necessarily a barrier.

It might suit someone who wants to study or volunteer elsewhere during the day?

circle100 · 27/09/2013 13:33

my thought process is to pay well overall and that covers some days working less ie school time an some times working a bit more ie holidays so it kind of evens itself out. Do mothers helps or nannies not want free time off during the day?
thanks

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circle100 · 27/09/2013 13:33

my thought process is to pay well overall and that covers some days working less ie school time an some times working a bit more ie holidays so it kind of evens itself out. Do mothers helps or nannies not want free time off during the day?
thanks

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OutragedFromLeeds · 27/09/2013 13:24

The money offered is very good for the hours required. Is that in the ad?

I think the ages of the children may be a problem, most nannies want pre-schoolers.

What will you do about school holidays? Is that paid extra or do you want double the hours for the same money? Could you have a live-out NWOC instead?

iluvkids · 27/09/2013 12:59

you wont get a very exp career nanny in ldn for 300

circle100 · 27/09/2013 12:48

thanks for the advice. maybe ill look more into a mothers help role maybe that's more what im looking for I was thinking around £280-300 a week ( after tax) I can make the hours longer I just thought I was being nice!
do you pay more for a driver even if you provide the car?

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NomDeClavier · 26/09/2013 18:45

People may just recognise it from the description though. I have job alerts enabled in nannyjob and I've seen this ad come through. It's sufficiently unusual for it to be recognisable.

OcadoSubstitutedMyHummus · 26/09/2013 16:14

I know people are trying to help but I always find it uncomfortable when posters look out for the ad and then post about it on here.

Cindy34 · 26/09/2013 13:31

Quite agree. Plus is salary ever really all that negotiable, parents have a wage in mind, so why not just give the starting salary - can always increase it after probation if all is going well.

iluvkids · 26/09/2013 13:13

no..not linked yet
but ad is also on nanny job..with no salary region.

mum-bosses and dadbosses wouldnt apply for a job without a salary region.. neither will many career nannies

Cindy34 · 26/09/2013 13:03

Iluvkids - OP has not linked to the ad have they? Though I am guessing you have spotted the same one as me on Gumtree.

iluvkids · 26/09/2013 11:25

greatcare.co.uk is a great site to put a private ad on as it gets emailed to literally 1000s of nannies

Artandco · 26/09/2013 11:08

Yes if love in most expect to be doing 60 hour weeks and paid accordingly. So 35hrs is almost half ( unless you are paying a higher than average rate per hour).

Also yes most prefer babies at the beginning as starting with a baby almost guarantees at least 5 years in one place ( more if they stay full time once in school or if more siblings follow).

In an ideal nanny world they start with one family with one child, and stay on for 10-15 years as the family grows with more children and they are continually needed. Families with busy jobs ideal as the nanny knows she will be needed for years to come during school holidays/ sickness/ etc etc

iluvkids · 26/09/2013 10:21

your gumtree ad has mothers help in it
..that puts career nannies off

you dont include salary or salary region in that ad
or your childcare.co.uk one

iluvkids · 26/09/2013 10:03

when i worked a flex live in job.. with both children at school most of the time..although the youngest had some half days..i worked 30-35 hrs a week..and was paid 300 net a week..as it was temp and not London.

for yours..id expect at least 350net .. 375 if u really wanted me to stay more than 6-9 months

Cindy34 · 26/09/2013 10:01

Good perks? What you may consider good the nanny may not.
Health club membership is often one that comes up, not everyone would use that.

4 weeks paid holiday, not a perk, it's a statutory right and statutory would actually be 5.6 weeks (once bank holidays added in). So not a perk unless holiday was a lot longer than statutory minimum, plus could be taken when the nanny wanted. With school age children, you may be limiting holiday to being during school holidays only.

Some people view things as a perk, whilst others will feel they are expected as standard. So avoid thinking of offering Good Perks. Just say what is included, the standard things and anything more unique.

OcadoSubstitutedMyHummus · 26/09/2013 09:58

What salary are you offering? If you're paying for 7 hours per day (presumably split morning and evening?) then it may not be attractive.

I'd suggest speaking to some agencies and see how easy they think it would be to fill your role. You don't have to hire them but would at least give you an idea as to how easy they see it to fill.

iluvkids · 26/09/2013 09:55

lots of live in nannies do 7-7 .. 12 hr days

so at 7 hrs a day..its a very short day

also if a child is taken ill at school..is the nanny responsible ?!so ie they are actually on duty aka responsible all day ?...so infact not 7 hr days

Cindy34 · 26/09/2013 09:51

Yes, a link or a cut&paste of the ad would be useful here.

Keep in mind you can change the ad quite often on many sites, so every few days rewrite it. Keep print out of ads along with list of people who applied, so you can analyse response rates and remember what you have and have not told applicants at that stage. Tackle this like a business task, create, analyse, adapt.

Yerazig · 26/09/2013 09:39

Do you have a link to one of the job ads that usually can help as a few of us may be able to give you some pointers where you may be going wrong.