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Does this sound ok for au pair role?

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cinnamonbun · 24/05/2013 11:42

We're planning to get an au pair next year (I know, I like to plan ahead!) I know au pairs normally work about 20 hours a week but we'd need slightly more hours (and before anyone suggests a nanny, we definitely can't afford one!). This is what I'm thinking but feel free to tell me if you think I'm being unreasonable:

-9:30am-4pm Mon-Fri with one hour lunch break = 27.5 hours/week.

-Duties would involve looking after DS during the day (who'll be 1) and pick DD up from school. I'll be working from home.

-We'll all be out between 9:30 and 10am so this time could be used for tidying up after breakfast (while I bring DD to school), hoovering (3 bedroom flat) once/twice a week and ironing DH's shirts twice a week.

-5 weeks holidays per year plus bank holidays.

-Salary: £110/week? (We're in London.)

-We'd also probably offer to pay for gym membership (there's one in the basement of the building).

-What about phone credit etc.?

Oh, and does anyone have a contract template I could use? I'd be most grateful! :)

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BranchingOut · 25/05/2013 07:56

I don't understand how that isn't a nanny job if he/she will be looking after a one year old?

NoRoomForMeInMyBed · 24/05/2013 22:54

Oh yes, there is an agency specializing in swedish au pairs in London, google swedish connection. De annonserar på Londonsvenskar sajten ibland, ifall du föredrar att använda en agentur.

NoRoomForMeInMyBed · 24/05/2013 22:50

We used the Aupair world site, and were very specific in what we wanted, Swedish speaker, independent and over 20. Its easy to use as you can read all the ads and the au pairs can apply to you as a family too. As you have to pay if you want to email the au pairs directly I did the cheapskate thing and googled/facebooked them instead. We had lots of applicants, and had a good selection to chhos from.
Londonsvenskar is good for swedes, there is a specific forum for au pairs and if you need a short notice replacement thats a good place to look.
As hubby and I work opposite shifts our au pair doesnt have set hours, we plan each week ahead and depending on our work load she takes over when needed. Its quite a cushy au pair job, lots of time off but sole charge of 3 when working. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions.

NomDeClavier · 24/05/2013 22:33

I wouldn't use a contract of the Internet. They rarely have all the stuff you need. If you PM me I'll send you the one we use with ours (which is long because DH is a lawyer).

forevergreek · 24/05/2013 21:30

Sure they should contribute to daily housework that's created ie join in with whatever family does. Hoover if it needs it, wipe kitchen etc. having set days and chores isn't 'helping'. It's doing it for someone else so they don't have to.

Yes someone may do it but a limited amount. If there's 20 people that fit bill, only 2 may want to do that, hence me saying you could loose out on 18 potentially better applicates.

( have been an au pair when young, then nanny and maternity nanny for many many years...)

cinnamonbun · 24/05/2013 21:19

Thanks for all the comments. ForeverGreek, I don't really agree regarding ironing being 'hard housework', I remember doing it as part of my au pair role many years ago and actually quite enjoyed it Grin. Also, I think being happy to muck in when it comes to cleaning is quite important and not unfair. I'll only ask her to do the hoovering (DH and I will do the rest) and after all I'd imagine it's quite unusual for a 20-something year old never to have to do any cleaning, whether she lives with an au pair host family or on her own.

NoRoom, thank you for the suggestion re contracts - I found one on au pair world that I might use. Can I ask how many hours your au pair works and did you go through an agency? (We're thinking of putting small ads in a couple of Swedish and Finnish newspapers.)

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NoRoomForMeInMyBed · 24/05/2013 20:24

Sounds fair and good to me, as an ex au pair from Sweden. We have just emoloyed our first au pair, a lovely Swede too, and as part of the contract we will supply and pay a basic contract mobile phone as we will need her to be contactable when shes working. Any usage over the agreed sum she will have to pay herself ( allowance given to cover calls and txts needed). We are on the outskirts of London so are paying £85 per week.

There are basic contracts on au pair world for download.

Lycka till! :)

OutragedFromLeeds · 24/05/2013 17:44

I'm imagining that the baby will be asleep during the au pairs 'lunch break', so won't actually know about the change in carer unless he wakes up.

nbee84 · 24/05/2013 13:36

Just a pointer - you may want to keep the wage at just under £109 per week which is the point at which you need to start paying national insurance contributions.

Have you thought about the effect on the baby to have 1 hour with you at lunchtime and then be handed back to the aupair? Some babies may be ok with that but a lot of 1 year olds will find it unsettling.

forevergreek · 24/05/2013 13:32

If your out until 10, and can't really afford a nanny I would shorten hours 10-4. Is there anyway you can just work through lunch ( quick lunch in your home office), and then au pair work 10-3 with no lunch break ( will just eat with 1 year old).
This would appeal to more people as most come to study English/ something do your supposed to give one in the day for them to do this. Finishing at 3 would allow them to attend late afternoon classes.

I'm afraid not being able to afford a nanny shouldn't au pair does the same work. Also ironing etc is hard housework to me so could you afford a cleaner once a week to do this? All these things will give you more choice of applicants as another person is likely to be offering 5 hours, 5 days, no housework, etc etc

ogredownstairs · 24/05/2013 12:40

Sounds OK as long as those really are the hours and you genuinely don't expect her to help with morning/evening routine. The pocket money is at the top end of the recommended amount, and if you're in fairly central/naice part of London that will be an attraction in itself. My experience is though that if the 1 year old knows you're in the house it will be really difficult for all of you, so you'll need to sort out plenty of Monkey Music etc for her to take ds to during the day.

OutragedFromLeeds · 24/05/2013 12:29

I know a Swedish au pair actually and her English is better than mine (though her parents don't speak any English at all Confused)!

Largeish bedroom and bathroom to herself or shared only with children is standard I think.

cinnamonbun · 24/05/2013 12:21

Some good points Outraged, thank you. As I'd be working from home, I'd look after DS during her lunch hour so yes she'd be free to pop out or whatever she likes.

Also, I forgot to mention that we want to get a Swedish-speaking au pair (as DH and I are both from Scandinavia) and I have yet to come across a Scandinavian whose English isn't near perfect so I don't think English classes would be necessary.

The flat we're moving to has 3 bedrooms but the children would be sharing. There are two bathrooms so hopefully that's ok.

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OutragedFromLeeds · 24/05/2013 12:11

The wage is at the generous end of normal for an au pair, so that's fine. Although I'm not sure that not counting the lunch hour as a work hour is really on....though I suppose if she is absolutely free to do whatever she wants in that hour then it would be ok.

Many au pairs want to come to improve their English and therefore attend language school, which is why they tend to do before/after school hours. Here you've got the au pair booked up all school hours, all week. She could probably do a weekend or evening class though. Maybe have a look what is available in your area so you can advise the au pair about evening/weekend language school choices. There are some au pairs who don't want to attend language school of course, so you could get one of them!

Have you got adequate room for an au pair in a 3 bedroom flat with 2 adults and 2 children already living there? They'll usually need more than a box room and a share in the family bathroom.