Poorly child

this thread is just going round in circles - Outraged clearly won't let it go, even though she has admitted she didn't know how childminders worked until now....

'The very clear implication being that we're a bunch of unprofessional, money grabbing, lazy cows.'

I don't think this. If you look at my previous posts, I've always included nannies/childminders as one. I always advise parents to use a nanny or childminder instead of a nursery. I always tell them it's better value for money for one child to use a chilminder. I'm not bashing childminder's. I am suprised at the approach to dealing with sick kids though.

Outraged ... unfortunately the other 5 families did not want their children stuck inside all day accommodating a sick child and the parent of the sick child was more than happy with the compromise that was reached, as I have never sent her child hone sick in the past 3 years.

Outraged, surely the reason that a nanny can accommodate a sick child is because her other charges are siblings of the ill child?
Us cms have children from different families and I don't think parents would be impressed ( and rightly so) if their child had to miss out on going on outings/ activities etc because I was l

'Outraged, that isn't how it was put by the previous poster - as well you know'

Sorry I thought that comment was to me, because I'd said childminder's are unreliable earlier on. What I meant was, as a from of childcare it is unreliable.

Outraged, that isn't how it was put by the previous poster - as well you know. Her exact words were 'all parents know childminders aren't reliable' before making out that we all charge for own holidays. The very clear implication being that we're a bunch of unprofessional, money grabbing, lazy cows.

I have never worked so hard in my life as I have in this job.

I hate letting people down and was a working parent after my first child so I understand how much parents dread getting that phone call from a childcarer to ask them to collect an ill child. But the way in which people are deliberately downplaying what the OP said again and again is actually pretty depressing. It suggests an inherently negative attitude to childminders; the assumption that we send a child home with the merest sniffle while chuckling to ourselves as we pocket the full day fee.

See, if our CM called to say baby was not herself, I'd say, OK, she's got a bit of a cold I know she's a grumbly, I'll see if one of us can leave work early. If I wasn't busy I'd collect immediately anyway, if I was I'd probably comment to that effect. (Well, in fact she'd be calling dad as he's the one that works locally, but if for some reason she called me...)
If CM called us and said baby's not well she needs to be collected we'd make sure someone got there as soon as possible.
Could it be a misunderstanding between OP and client, and client thought OP was just calling to inform her? May just be the way you phrased the post tho OP.

'god what an unpleasant person you are Outraged. Really, really nasty.... '

Yes, I've been vicious and personal about you, while you've been lovely and polite. Oh no.....hang on....let's read back....yep it's you that's lobbing insults.

HSMM being a nanny it's very much about facilitating the parents going to work no matter what. I thought (wrongly I now know) it was similar with childminding. So, in your example we would have all had a duvet/film day to accommodate the sick child, rather than preventing the parent going to work. I'm genuinely suprised.

Ling childminder's themselves are not unreliable, but it's an unreliable form of childcare that cannot accommodate a sick child. The same as nursery. Children get sick all the time. We all know this. I can't reliably send my child there and rely on the childminder to keep them for the full day because if they're (slightly)sick and can't join in with activities I have to leave work to collect them.

its any excuse on here LingDiLong to put childminders now. Nannies seem to think they are superior, those that use them think they are getting the better option too (because they pay a lot more for them...) what they fail to realise is most cms have been nannies already and are also mothers with years of experience under their belt.

There is a lot of snobbery around childminders. Its horrible. I don't charge for my holidays, my sickness (not had a day sick in errm, around 5 years or so!) or any time i am off with either of my ds. i work bloody hard for minimum wage, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week most weeks of the year, but yes, you are right, any excuse to give childminders a kicking on here!

What's the surprise? He had a stinking rotten cold and could not take part in the normal activities in the morning, but we were home in the afternoon, so he could snuggle on the settee while the other children put on puppet shows etc and his Mum made her conference call.

My daughter wasn't in childcare at the time she was with me so don't no If few hours would make a difference. Think it was more to do with her age, the not eating snd drinking, as they explained a child getting a urine infection is not the same as an adult. You don't just get antibiotics and sent home. She was about 12- 14months at the time. A urine infection can cause damage in young children and they then need follow up appointments to check for tissue scaring /damage.

'that's good then Outraged, we got there eventually... '

Yes!! Thank goodness. You've finally managed to read what I've written 4 times on this thread.

well done! I feel like it was all worth it now.

With practice you could probably get in 3, I reckon!

I hate the attitude to childminders on here sometimes, I really do .

Childminders are NOT unreliable. I've been doing this a year now and have had one day off sick in that time. I don't charge for my holidays.

And it isn't about calling a parent to collect a child who 'just' has a cold FFS. Stop being so disingenuous! I'm starting to think this thread is just an excuse to give childminders a kicking. Thank God for my lovely parents who respect what I do and are happy to work in partnership with me rather than just demand I do exactly what suits them regardless of whether it's best for their child or the childcare setting their child uses. I'm beginning to see just how lucky I've been so far.

See that suprises me HSMM about the duvet day thing. I'm not judging, I'm just suprised. It's very different from nannying.

that's good then Outraged, we got there eventually...

And I don't get paid for my sickness or holidays.

'but it is the cms choice whether she wants a sick child in her home and around her family!! if she doesn't, then the parent has to collect. '

Okay. 4th time lucky. I respect a chilminder's right to run her business how she sees fit.

I also have a policy about children being able to take part in normal activities. Today for example one of my parents called to say her son might need a bit of a duvet day, so she didn't bring him until the other children had been out to toddlers and had lunch.

I didn't know that mummypig, that's why I was suprised. I knew about D&V etc, but I wouldn't have thought a cold would warrant a parent being called.

Every day's a school day on mumsnet .

but it is the cms choice whether she wants a sick child in her home and around her family!! if she doesn't, then the parent has to collect.

Again Reet no-one has said the parent shouldn't be given the choice? If the parent chooses to stay at work and not collect their child then that is their responsibility. All you need to do as a childminder is what you think is right at the time. So call the parents if you need to, if it gets worse call an ambulance.

I tend to only send mindees home for d&v (actually never had any in 11 years ) an u usually high temperature maybe an asthma attack if bad enough. coughs and colds are part and parcel
of this job unfortunately but I think I'm immune to it all now lol
I would always contact a parent, get permission to give medicine and then if things didn't improve I would then suggest leaving work as soon as they could. I try to put myself in their position my boss when I had a different job was very unsympathetic if my dcs were ever ill. I was lucky, gps looked after mine