Reduction in nanny's hourly rate if she brings her own child

Of course it is fair to ask the nanny to take a paycut. I can't believe that anyone thinks it would be unreasonable.

When thinking about how much, I think it depends on whether you want a nanny-share arrangement or a NWOC arrangement.

In a nanny-share things must be split equally. The nanny's child would be of equal importance to your children. If the nanny wanted to do something with her baby or take her baby to a doctor's appointment, for example, you will have to accept your children going as well, in the same way the nanny would have to take her child to an activity your children want to do. I think you would have to expect a reduction in other jobs e.g. laundry etc as well. In this case I would reduce her wage by 33%. It's a share, you have two children 66%, she has one so she pays 33%.

In a NWOC arrangement, the nanny would put your children first and her baby would just 'come along'. She wouldn't be able to dictate what activities she wants her baby to do, she would carry on with your children's routines, activities etc, her child just fits in. She would be expected to do the same job as before. In this case I would reduce it by 10-15%.

All the nannies I know who bring their DC to work have a NWOC set-up i.e. their child fits in with the other child's needs.

Yes THe nanny should get a salary drop as effectively she is getting free Childcare - I think about a 20% drop is fair

No other job would allow a mum to bring their baby to work and nwoc should reliese it is a privilege not a right

And obv the employers wouldn't be getting 100% of the attention of their nanny anymore so does turn into a kinda nanny share

A baby needs more care than an older child, I think a reduction of 33% would be acceptable.

I would expect to have money reduced - it then becomes a nanny share in a way and you aren't getting full attention on your children all the time which is what you pay for. Also limits what you can ask her to do - eg maybe can't take them swimming as then over the numbers etc.

In general nannies going back to a job don't seem to have their salary reduced. Nannies looking for a new job with their own child coming too get 60-80% of what they would otherwise.

If you're in the habit of giving pay rises you can always freeze pay because she'll be bringing her own child but if you reduce it you risk her taking longer off work because it's less financially attractive for her to come back.

The level of care isn't the same when there's another child, particularly a baby, involved. A good nanny will recognise that. They may not, however, make the leap that parents pay a premium not only for care at home but also the 1-1 attention that they'll no longer get. IMO it's fair that said premium aka higher pay for the nanny be affected.

I think it sounds perfectly reasonable to expect a reduction but I'd actually be more concerned about how the presence of a baby would affect what the nanny is able to do with your children i.e swimming / after school activities .

I'm not sure on whether or not you should or shouldn't and I'm sure others will be much more knowledgeable but... maybe if you checked the hourly rate of local childminders and reduced your nanny's wage by a percentage of that? Possibly a third of the childminders rate as there will be 3 children. Not sure but I do agree that the job has changed to shared care.

It's like a nanny share, except the family you are sharing with is the nanny's own family. Of course there shld be a reduction. The nanny must pay toward the share.

I interviewed a few nannies with babies, they generally asked for about 30-40% less than the nannies who weren't proposing to bring their own children.

I would expect a reduction as it is effectively a nanny share-I.e. the nanny is sharing her time with an extra child.

It becomes shared care, so it's not the same job... there is another child involved, a child who in theory could be cared for by someone else. So a reduction seems reasonable to me (being a childless nanny) but if I were a nanny with my own child would I feel the same? Not sure if I would.

Employers do not need to accept a nanny back with their own child, it is a change to the job. So in exchange for being able to bring their child to work, what changes do they expect?

I wouldn't reduce her hourly rate if she is still expected to do the same jobs, although maybe discuss a payment for her child's food ect or ask her to bring her own for her child.

Speaking as a nanny who returned to work after maternity leave with baby, i would be more than a little miffed in having a reduction in pay esp if i was still doing the same job!!

This seems a debated issue on here, if I had a nanny I'd want to pay less if she is caring for her own child/ren while also caring for mine but a lot, nannies I imagine, think the pay should be the same. It gets even more complex when thinking about food and other resources as the child grows.

why would you reduce her hourly rate, i dont understand