Back to work...am I kidding myself

i think the term time only thing is an issue too. the only people for who that is appealing really are mothers of school aged children. i think you either need to advertise for someone with kids and/or be prepared to pay all year round...

it depends where you live. round here i think you would have no trouble filling the post with a semi retired/ex sahm type who could still go to the gym/meet friends for coffee most days and would accept they are "on call" but be happy they were getting paid. in places where highly paid nannies are common (eg S London, home counties, cheshire) no way for all the reasons pp's have given

What about another mother at your DCs school?

Please don't just advertise and "see who is about"....you want someone crb checked, with references etc. Use a reputable source. You aren't paying nanny rates so perhaps local child minder register?

a nanny cant be se if works perm for a family

op will need to employ her

Don't forget you must pay above the minimum wage if she is employed by you. So 60 per day wouldn't cover it. If she is self employed and invoices you its different

as others have said that wage isnt enough for a nanny, unless you employ one that is literally out of college/18ish

tbh i see the only option is either a 3 day nanny till sept and your parents cover for 2 days till then, or you technically work for nothing till sept, then change to a cm

so get a temp nanny in - what happens to your dog in sept if you have a cm

I'd "go back to work" in September and avoid all the hassle of temporary arrangements.

Slightly aghast that you don't consider childminding work though!

my cm does some just drop offs and some just pick ups (in fact my ds is the only one she has all day).
i put an ad out and let cms who could meet my requirments come to me. maybe stick one out for cm and nanny and see who comes up trumps

Your main problem could be getting through to July after which you will be home for the summer (often a childcare headache, teaching is fab in that respect at least!) and could probably get a CM lined up for September, you could spend more money than planned until July to attract a nanny, seek a nanny share, or just get a nanny from lunchtime and pay a friend or teenager or someone cash to do the morning drop-off. Or send your youngest to nursery/school all day.

Nanny share? If you could find a local family with 1 pre school DC then you could both share the cost of a nanny?

If you find an CM very close to your school would 8am be ok? I am a teacher too and have my CM from 7.50 which gets me into school for 8am. I used to like to be in school early for the quiet time but have found 8am do-able.

I think a nanny with their own child (and a partner with a good income) or a student would be your best bet.

£60 a day is £300 a week, if we say 38 weeks term time that's £11,400 a year. A nanny in Richmond is £12 (actually probably slightly more), that's £120 a day, £600 a week, 52 weeks a year £31,200.

There are not many nannies that will want to or who will be able to afford to earn £19,800 a year less than they could for doing essentially the same hours (even if a lot of those hours are sitting around doing nothing). Really you want a SAHM who wants a bit of extra cash in a job that fits around her DC's, but then you'll need her DC's to go to the same school as your DC's or to be under school age.

It's always worth advertising to see what sort of response you get though.

Would a cm not be more suitable? Some will pick up from your house and drop off at school as well as pick up so you dont have to factor dropping them off at cm too.

Also if you employ a nanny it is common practice for you to provide their meals whilst they are working too so this may possibly add to your costs

I think the rate is too low for a 10 Hr day but it could work if you're just employing someone for the hours they actually need to work.
A nanny would want in the region of £10 ph.
I would think about possibly a post grad student who has experience with children and a flexible time table (many masters courses are especially after the first term) so they could fit their work around working for you.
I worked as a part time all year round and full time summer nanny from 2004-2007 in London around my studies and it worked really well

given your location,i doubt you will find a nanny,even with own child willing to statt at 7.30 and work 10 hrs for £60.
I charge £60 forr 10 hours as a cm.
I think you need a cm, at least until your youngest goes ft but bare in mind many dont start until 8am and you wpuld prob be charged double time per child for that 30mins.
from sept,i would say you could manage with breakfast/after school club and playscheme for holidays if you need it

I think the problem is that nannies expect to do more than you're asking, so it's not a nanny job. You've effectively de skilled it as much as possible which works really well for an au pair - and if you had space it would be a great solution - but not for a nanny.

Can you not just get a childminder? You wouldnt have to pay them while the children are at school, and could also get a cleaner. That's what I do and it works really well.

What salary would you offer? If 60 is the budget, salary will need to be lower as you will have costs on top (employers NI, running payroll unless you do it yourself, outings/activities, mileage if they use their car, insurance if they use your car, employers liability insurance if your homecontents insurance does not include it).

Plus as live-out, you need to comply with NMW which varies by age.