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Are you a Ofsted nanny?

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 16:02

May I ask what you were asked for at your inspection please

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nbee84 · 01/11/2012 10:17

Bump - wondering what the outcome was Soshe.

nannynick · 27/08/2012 18:39

Shoshe - Just wondering if Ofsted have responded to your complaint yet. Have they concluded that their inspector was incompetent and that you did in fact meet the requirements and should not have had any actions?

ELBE · 02/08/2012 22:24

I had an ofsted visit last January and I had to have a policy for everything. She told me that I didn't have enough risk assessments done for trips out, but she was pleased that I had everything in place. I did a fire escape plan also which she was impressed with. I had this all in place as an nofsted inspector told me that is what they expect. She also kept telling me that the door was to be locked and the key to be kept on me.

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Shoshe · 02/08/2012 21:05

I will be fine letting it slip Sunshine, , im in my mid fifties and have Lupus so this one will definitely be the last job I take Grin

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sunshinenanny · 02/08/2012 20:05

I'm so glad you got this sorted. The woman who inspected me kept saying "of course we can't really do much about nannies" and I could see it really P**d her offSmile She asked a lot of pointless questions and as she was leaving the then 3 year old I care for whispered to me "can we go out now the ladies going"Grin

Do think carefully about letting your registration slip as you may need it for a future job and will have to go through the whole thing again perhaps with a few new hoops to jump through! Good luck in your new job.

MrAnchovy · 02/08/2012 13:45

Well done.

Don't fall into the same trap as the inspector though - the fact that you are on the Voluntary Part of the register is irrelevant, it is the fact that you are a Home Childcarer that is important.

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Shoshe · 02/08/2012 08:45

Have spoken to Ofsted need to put in an official complaint as, as we thought the inspector was totally incompetent and got it all wrong.

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Shoshe · 02/08/2012 07:38

I explained that I was finishing with current family next week could she come to new family in September, but she was very insistent that she came yesterday as it was 'in her quota for this month'
I have a feeling she had to get so many through before new eyfs.
But she really didn't seem to have any idea of the difference between a nanny and a CM.
I asked her had she done any other VR inspections and she said she had done plenty.
So that's plenty done to the wrong criteria

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forevergreek · 02/08/2012 07:20

Can I just ask, Iv heard you can just say that your family don't authorise an inspection as in their home, and there are no implications? Is this correct? Current family wouldn't mind but just wondered

I have also never been inspected in 5 years I have been registered, however I am often travelling with work etc, would I just say I'm not availiable and they would rebook for a later date? ( where potentially could need to travel abroad last min)

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Shoshe · 02/08/2012 06:55

Thank you Mr A, I am going to contact Ofsted this morning.

I have never had an action, in fact my last CM report was an OS.

I am furious.

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MrAnchovy · 02/08/2012 00:45

Here is one I made earlier Grin.

nannynick · 01/08/2012 22:39

It seems that it would be a good idea for any nanny to have a copy of the factsheet with the relevant parts highlighted to hand when being inspected.

Yes, I agree if I am ever inspected I intend to have that and make it very clear to the inspector that they can not ask about anything that is not on that list.

MrAnchovy · 01/08/2012 22:31

As a Home Childcarer, you only have to comply with items where it says Home Childcarer in the "Requirement" column. The "On which part of the childcare register" column only applies to Childminders: Home Childcarers can only be registered in the Voluntary Part of the register.

The person that inspected you is clearly incompetant - you must complain to Ofsted to help both yourself and others.

It seems that it would be a good idea for any nanny to have a copy of the factsheet with the relevant parts highlighted to hand when being inspected.

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 22:10

Thats how I read it, she was reading it that all parts that say both Nannies must adhere to.

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nannynick · 01/08/2012 21:59

That's why I asked about the age of the children - some childminders are only on the voluntary part of the register due to caring for children aged 8+.

As I read that document, it's only the parts that specifically say Home Childcarer that applies to nannies.

Where something applies to both, the wording is like this:
CR1.10 Childminders and home childcarers must be aged 18 or
over and childminders must ensure that any person aged
under 18 caring for children is supervised at all times by a
person who has attained the age of 18.

It also has things that only apply to home childcarers, which are worded like:
CR5.6 Home childcarers must advise parents/guardians/carers of
any health and safety risks.

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 21:10

This is what she used am I reading it wrong.

Does it mean where it says BOTH PARTS, but calls the carer CHILDMINDER, that a homecarer should adhere to it as well.

I read it as a Childminder on both registers needs to adhere to it.

I was complying with the parts that said homecarers or stating VR.

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 21:07

I did say to her that, but she said it made no difference, it was her insistence that I had to tell the parents that they comply to the locked door.

To make it worse I lived in the same style of house as a CM, the door was never locked and was passed by Ofsted everytime.

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 21:04

No there mostly under 5 Nick.

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nannynick · 01/08/2012 21:03

Just a thought, the children you carr for are not all aged 8+ are they?

nannynick · 01/08/2012 21:01

Have asked my Home Based Childminding Advisor and she is not aware of any changes to the requirements.

Are you able to contact the inspector to obtain evidence that it is really in the requirements?

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 20:31

She had a list (which she said I could download but for the life of me cant find it on the Ofsted site) which she said I should have.

She kept referring to it as law.

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nannynick · 01/08/2012 20:29

Shoshe - I wonder if your having been a childminder has confused the inspector.
You are just a nanny now aren't you... just caring for the children from one family, at the home of those children?

nannynick · 01/08/2012 20:19

Did she show you where it says it on the 'standards'?

Complaints about Ofsted
Raise a complaint about the things you are unhappy about, so that Ofsted can investigate the inspectors report. Doubt it will make much difference but you never know.

The inspector insisted that I should have a complete written policy document (H&s, safeguarding, permissions, medical etc.)
I should have a register, and a child profile for each child.

I wonder where the inspector is referring to when they say you have to have that. A register of the children you nanny, seems rather odd. A list of the children's names and their dob sounds more reasonable - that may well be on the employment contract, or other correspondence (including e-mail) between the parents and nanny.

Conducting Childcare Register Inspections does mention some of these things but as far as I can see, it excludes Home Childcarers.

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 19:53

What about the Register bit Nick, I cant find anything that says I should have one.

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Shoshe · 01/08/2012 19:50

Thank You Nick, I argued the point but she was not having it.

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