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Advice for an au pair.

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Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 13:55

Hi mumsnet, i've been on so many websites seeking advice but alot of it isn't very useful and some can be quite mean. someone recommended this site to me before and i hope i can get some help. I am not a mum, but i am au pair living abroad and i would be so greatful for your help. I have been here for almost 2 months, when i came here everything was perfect but now things are starting to go a bit downhill and it doesn't seem so peachy. i dont know what to do or whether im overreacting.

The thing is i feel very uncomfortable around the dad. When his wife goes out he often asks me round to keep him company, to drink wine or to watch a movie. I went once and he was a bit strange with me, asking how things were with my boyfriend etc. and i have made a point of not going there alone since. He asks if i will go on a solo trip alone with him to Berlin, Which strangely enough his wife supports him with! When i got here i agreed to it, as i had said how much iwanted to go to berlin, and first thought that he was being friendly but now i wonder if there is an ulterior motive. His wife knows about this trip and him asking me round. i said i will be happy going to berlin alone, as i quite a confident, independant person, but he insists on going with me as he knows where to go etc....i dont know if his wife knows about all his invitations. He often sends me emails or skypes me when he goes away, asking questions sometimes to do with the children but sometimes just general chat. i try not to give him much cut, but as i said before sometimes you dont want to come across as unfriendly. The other day i had lotion on my shoulder and he was like, oh here let me get it for you, and rubbed it in! He gets emails when i update my facebook with anything and puts little things on his fb in english now, when he doesn't speak that language and neither do any of his friends. He also insisted on walking me back to my flat one evening i'd been out, and just stood at the door staring at me. i literally live a second away from their flat and wouldn't have needed to be accompanied back. he never does this when his wife is there. I generally feel uncomfortable and feel like he always wants to talk to me and be near me. He looks at me alot, and i dont know if his wife is oblivious to this or aware of it, either way she doesn't say or do anything, or doesn't see it as a problem. And the other day he told me i was being 'bitchy' and acted wrongly after he and his wife tried to persuade me to let a 17 year old boy stay in my flat who is going to be working with them. I don't think this is very acceptable as i wouldn't stay with a stranger back home, so i wouldn't do it here. I also thought it was rude the way he talked to me saying that. They had mentioned this man staying to me three times, even though i told them blatantly that i did not agree with it the first time. I felt a bit pressurised the third time they asked and he said that because i got upset, that i reacted badly and was 'bitching'. I am in my early twenties, and he is only 5 years older than me. I just want to go home now, but i dont know if im possibly over reacting or what? is this normal behaviour? Is he just being overley friendly? I wanted advice on this site as i know you will be honest with me. If it isn't right, how should i leave. should i give notice, or just go? please help!

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SoldeInvierno · 09/06/2012 19:24

Lucy, don't blame yourself and don't find excuses for him. A man, (a father! ), should know his place and keep the relationship with the aupair strictly professional. He should be seeing you as an older daughter and nothing else. For respect to his wife and respect to you.

Unfortunately some men, no matter how old they are, always think that young girls fancy them.

Your idea of leaving next week is good. Don't delay it.

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 19:18

Thank you lots ladies for the advice. i'm really now considering the flights next week, which will be for the best. i will maybe just say im going to the city shopping on a day she is off work and just not come back. I am just worrying that i'm seeing it in the wrong light, and he is just being really friendly with me. As i mentioned im a very chatty person, and quite confident. I worry incase he has picked up on this and just thinks it is best to be so forward with me?? I have went out on bike runs with him a couple of times and now i worry that he thinks this is because i like him or something, when it really really isn't! or he just see's me as a friend he can hang around with because his wife isn't very invovled with him. What do you think?

I'm sorry for being such a pest on here btw. i just want to do the right thing.

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SoldeInvierno · 09/06/2012 19:12

Lucy, you need to think about yourself and your safety. If you can get a ticket for tomorrow, pack your stuff and leave tonight while they are sleeping. You can wait at the airport for a few hours and be home tomorrow.

If you cannot get a flight for tomorrow, book one for as soon as you can. Leave the flat the night before the flight and stay with a friend or the airport.

If the lady is facilitating her husband preying on you, she's as bad as he is.

HecateTrivia · 09/06/2012 19:01

Yes, you really just need to get the hell away as soon as possible. It's not a good situation to be in.

I wouldn't be giving notice either, in case they got nasty.

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 18:43

I am their first au pair btw.

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Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 18:42

Yeah to be honest, i think if i told her she wouldn't see any of it as being such a big deal. She seemed to support the idea of us going away on a trip together completely alone without the kids! And was happy that i would go round there on my own to drink wine with him whilst she went out!? I couldn't understand that. I think if i told her what was going on, she'd accuse me of over exaggerating or looking too much in to things. and then i'd just end up looking ridiculous and feeling worse. thats what i worry about, that i'm maybe looking too much in to it all. But i think everything goes beyond a healthy/normal hostdad/aup pair relationship. I know it is ok to be friendly and welcoming and to include the au pair etc, but i feel like its going a bit further than that. and that it isn't right.

Yeah i wasn't sure with the flat thing either, whether i was making a big deal. She said the other au pair who was going to come before me was completely fine with the idea. they decided that he could stay in there house, and after they said that they expected me to be completely happy again, after they'd just tried to pressurise me for the third time!

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blueshoes · 09/06/2012 18:23

I am trying to think whether the wife would (should) know about her husband's behaviour. Are you their first aupair? I would think the husband would have tried it on with your predecessors and this could not be the first time.

If she condones it, then shame on her to allow her husband to prey on young vulnerable girls away from home. I would be fine to leave her in the lurch in that situation.

The wide trying to persuade you to let a 17 year boy stay in your flat is also outrageous. They don't seem to respect boundaries.

iluvkids · 09/06/2012 18:21

book a flight and leave tomorrow

book a taxi from there to the airport...

get your family to meet you off the plane / at airport...

are you in the eu / where are u?

Frakiosaurus · 09/06/2012 18:17

They cannot stop you leaving, particularly if you have a taxi waiting for you

If you feel very unsafe you have to leave and put yourself ahead of the family.

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 18:11

I think i will have to wait for next week to get a flight, i can't leave today as it's too late and they will probably be home all day tomorrow. I have a suitcase and a bag. and i have to leave through a joint courtyard so it could be difficult, but i will think it through and see if i can put my bags somewhere the day before and then pick them up.

That is the only thing that is bothering me, i don't want to leave the mother in the lurch completely in regards to childcare, she runs her own business so its possible for her to close until she finds someone new to look after them. BUT i still feel awful as it will affect her other employees etc.

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longjane · 09/06/2012 18:05

well it is weekend now
so pack your bags and go

ImperialBlether · 09/06/2012 18:03

So is there a flight tomorrow? How much luggage do you have? Will they see if you leave the flat with bags?

What will happen to the children if you left so suddenly?

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 18:00

I'm usually always with them through the day at the moment, if not then she or he are at home. i get a friday afternoon off usualy but it isn't guaranteed. I'd be better leaving at the weekend as i'm always off then and there are flights going back to where i live!

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ImperialBlether · 09/06/2012 17:58

I would leave a note saying you are going and I'd get on the next plane. Get your mum or boyfriend to call when you've arrived home to tell the wife why you had to leave so suddenly.

Do you have free time in the day when you could leave or are you always taking care of the children?

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 17:45

Wow, that sounds awful....I think it is the same as what you say, it's my gut feeling that's telling me something isn't right. I think if i say i'm leaving and give warning he will get angry and something might happen. I'm not saying that it would definately happen but there is always that possibility.

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SoldeInvierno · 09/06/2012 17:43

At first they looked like a normal family with a small baby. She worked days and he worked nights, so he was at home for many hours just with me. The inappropiate behaviour started within a week in my case, but I was not sure what was going on for a few day, as I found it so confusing. I really din't think it was posible this was happening to me on my first aupair position. I was 18 years old and quite naive.

I left 3 weeks later and by then it had got really bad and tried to grab me whether we were alone or not. I was scared of going upstairs if I know he was there, even if the lady was in the living room. I confided in a friend who also said "he's probably just been friendly", but I knew my gut feeling was right. "Friendly people" don't make me feel scare and he did.

QuintessentialShadows · 09/06/2012 17:34

Dont feel bad, just get out of there.

The two of them have created a situation where you dont feel safe. Their childcare issues should be the least of your concerns.

When I was 20 a friend of mine was raped by the father in her host family, she was an au pair in the US. He was also very friendly, let her borrow his car, gave her wine. And then one day....

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 17:32

It's so refreshing at reassuring to talk to people who have had similar experiences, makes me not feel so alone! They have my house address, which is a concern but i doubt they'd come all the way to my house to track me down. Did you have a good friendship with them initially? or did the inappropriate behaviour start straight away?

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SoldeInvierno · 09/06/2012 17:29

If the wife knew the truth, she would probably try to blame it on you and would get rid of you straightaway, anyway. In many of these situations, the wife finds it difficult to blame the husband, even if posibly years later she realises it was his fault all along.

SoldeInvierno · 09/06/2012 17:26

Lucy, the man got in touch with me. He was nasty, but he only had my phone number. He didn't know where I lived, so he only called once and then stopped. I couldn't get myself to telling the truth to the wife. She was awfully nice and I felt very sorry for her. She was 29 years old, had a little baby and was married to that horrible man. I told her I had found a job as a PA in London and I had to leave straightaway. She probably didn't believe me, but...

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 17:20

Thank you all so much for your advice btw

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Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 17:18

Yeah i've got plenty money to get a ticket, or else my boyfriend said he would pay for it if i needed help. My mum knows but she is playing it down a bit i think, so as to not worry me too much. She thinks i should leave it a few days and see how it goes, as she thinks he is maybe just a really friendly person??? The first while everything was perfect and i was so happy but its just felt horrible this last week now that i've considered everything that's happened. i don't feel comfortable at all. I knew his behaviour wasn't right at all, with how he treated me, but now i'm starting to think he might try something more. I felt that maybe even if he did have a thing for me, it could be kept at bay if i just didn't lead it on. But when he called me bitchy and said he wasn't happy with my reaction, it felt like he wanted to have some sort of control over me and issue authority that went outwith an employment relationship. Now everything feels weird and i don't want to be in the same room as him at all. Did the family try to get in touch with you afterwards SoldeInvierno?? Did you tell them why you'd left?

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longjane · 09/06/2012 17:14

Yes I have and Yes i got out as soon as I can .
the wifes are always nice if they are not they know the au pair would be sleeping with her hubby as soon she turn her back .

dont worry about the kids that the parents job if dad was any kind of father he would do this to you.

just go please
this will not end well if the wife found out they would just kick you out
so go now
pretend you have family emergency and go.
that way you can keep them on your cv

SoldeInvierno · 09/06/2012 17:08

i have been in a similar situation and I didn't give them any warning. I found somewhere to go and when everything was ready, I got in a taxi and left. You owe them nothing, so just think of you safety and leave as soon as you can. Even if you plan to leave in a few days, I wouldn't give them any warning. They could turn nasty when they know your plans.

Have you got enough money to buy a ticket now? if not, can your parents help you? Imagine what your parents would feel like if they knew what's going on!

Lucyinthesky14 · 09/06/2012 16:48

Have you been in a similar situation longjane?? Did you just leave right away? i'm thinking about it doing it in the next coming days. His wife is usually really quite nice to me, so i feel so bad leaving her with no childcare option, but i can't live here for another 4 months like this.

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