Parents sending children to cm while they are on holiday themselves

Why would taniths children call the bus driver gran??

Over familiarity oh I think I get you, cms are the hired help???

Right off to get me an apron and cap.

They are CRB checked because they regularly visit and it's an OFSTED requirement.
They are called Granny and Grandad because they prefer it and it's what my own children call them. The parents are happy with it: why should you object?

They are not paid.

Childminders are self-employed, not hired help.

See I just don't see that as unprofessional.

So I would see gossiping about parents or mindees very unprofessional, but see mindees calling my boys by nick names and having 'sword fights' as well just fun.

what about the shop lady
the bus driver
friends gran,is that gran too?
or is over familiarity only reserved for the cm mum

I wouldn't mind DS calling his CM's mum granny.

yes they are in essence paid guests
the cm is paid staff,not the gran,not the grandad
it's an adult business transaction
keep it professional

Because that's the deal with a home based setting! The mindees are important little guests In your house and as such one of the family.

body mindees should address you by your forename
not gran,not grandad or any familial name.as your not their family
a good warm rapport, yes
address by forename, yes
addressed as gran or grandad, def no

Does that poker up your arse hurt scottishmummy.

Jesus just re read the last post, sorry but it's wierd how you seem to hate childminders.

gran/grandad are used by the mindees,to refer to adults quite clearly not their GP? you said you're family offering care,Inc grandparents.who are crb checked?
that suggests they too participate in the package - as you said?
what's the deal then?
why do the mindees call them gran/grandad?

I think mad is well mad and scottishmummy, well I have never read such bull shit in my life. You sound a warm lovely person

Pehaos mindees should call me mrs.... Instead of my name. Perhaps I shouldn't kiss and cuddle them as unprofessional.

My older dss (22 and 21) shouldn't jam with them
On their guitars while they bang drums and Maraccas.

Perhaps my younger daughters shouldn't play hide and seek with them?? Unprofessional.

You have clearly no idea what parents want from child minders.
This thread is mad now.

No Scottishmummy, they're not the paid carers: they are grandparents visiting their own grandchildren and generously including the minded children as part of the family.
In your opinion I lack boundaries. In my opinion you are spoiling for trouble and you would argue that day is night, blackbirds are white, and the sun goes round the earth on this thread

lol,great line in stories
aye like call me gran.no in not really your gran,but you can call me it
shocking

Jardin, thank you for your comments: the wooden leg sounds brilliant
We can't show anything nearly so entertaining, but Granny does a great line in stories - they adore her visits!

no.they as paid carer are using inappropriate terms
terms that are familial in definition and common usage.
its wholly inappropriate
and alluding to a non existent relationship,they arent the GP - they are paid carers

yes I use nursery but I sure as hell dont want staff being called over familiar names like gran/ grandad

you lack boundaries

Of course people choose not to use childminders, but I don't see that as a bad thing. To be frank, I probably wouldn't want to work with those people anyway. Childcare settings are many and varied, especially childminder settings, and it's entirely down to parental choice what will work for them and their families. This is something I tell every parent that comes to see us.

Inappropriate for you Scottishmummy, but that's why you're using a nursery and not a childminder, surely?

It's not inappropriate for us or for the parents who use our services - or are you judging their parenting choices? As you said yourself, it's up to them.

It's my business model and it works very well for me. I see no need to change it. Parents are happy; kids are happy; OFSTED are happy - who's complaining? Some argumentative people on an anonymous site.

"It is utterly ridiculous to imply that, just because a childminder has their own child present, they will favour their family over the minded children. "

Really? "Utterly ridiculous". And there is a small difference between "favouritism" in a work place in general and suggesting a parent might.. just might favour their own child over one that they take into their home to earn money.

Anyway, the central point is being missed. My point is that it is not a very good idea to go into childminding so that you can spend more time with your own child and get paid for it. I acknowledged that some people have a vocation for it as a profession above and beyond this reason.

Also, like it or lump it, a lot of people choose not to use childminders for this very common-sense reason.

it lacks boundaries and is unprofessional that children. call you gran/grandad
when you aren't the GP
you're the paid carer
you need to be realistic and not pretend it's home from home or jolly day at the grand parents.

quite simply it's a day at the paid child minder.
it's a business transaction,not touch feely call me gran,call him grandad

it's v inappropriate of you

Tanith your set up sounds lovely. DS2's CM's dad lives with her and all the children know him as grandad and he takes his wooden leg off upon request It is lovely for DS2 as he only has one grandad who is too frail to visit.

I think this thread is just getting more and more bizarre. MAD, are you a childminder? Have you ever used a childminder?

Favouritism - that's what we're talking about after all - can happen in all settings, regardless of whether family members are present or not. It is utterly ridiculous to imply that, just because a childminder has their own child present, they will favour their family over the minded children. That's where professionalism comes in. Please don't judge others by your own poor standards!

I work with my DH. We are a family offering childcare. My DD, aged 2, and my DS, aged 12, are part of that package, as are the grandparents, who are called Granny and Grandad by all the children when they're here - yes, they're CRB checked, they worked with children, too.

The minded children are part of our family. We're graded Outstanding; the parents who use us appreciate the way our business is set up, particularly single parents, those with only one child, and those without grandparents.

Unprofessional? You don't know what you're talking about!

It was asked as a question Cailin.. "so teachers can't teach their kids etc?"

I don't see that it's at all irrelevant, though. Basically CMing is now a professional role and a person doing this job should be able to put their professionalism ahead of their personal responsibilities in most everyday situations. I think that's probably a tall order when taking care of children while trying to raise your own in the early years where they will fight/are very dependent etc, so I would suggest that anyone professionally committed to the role as it stands these days needs to seek alternative childcare for their own children and treat it as it is - a job - and realise they are as much a working mother (or father) as any of their clients.

It's not a job to do just because you fancy being around your kids all day and think this is the way to achieve that and get paid for it. Not as it stands at the moment with the paperwork etc involved.

it swings to both sides probably, and I'ld guess most people would claim to be neutral when probably the reality is that a smaller amt are

my home village everyone used the same CM for after school, she had a son in the primary school, he was her little prince, he was allowed to choose one mindee a day who was allowed to play on his expensive computer games etc. As a result a lot of kids resented him, que CM barging into school with bullying accusations because he wasn't much liked, que CM compensating by crowning him king of the kids during afterschool time, que more resentment of the horrible boy who was like a rohl dahl characature of a spoilt obnoxious child

On the other hand, the CM I used had older children, the bigger bedroom was used for naps, they had small rooms and NO space for them as all the living area was set up for toddlers and babies, the home was done up almost like a nursery not a home and certainly not the home of older children

There's no way I'd ever teach my children, far too awkward. However, childminding is nothing like teaching so I'm not sure how it's relevant here.

my father was taught by his mother in primary school, their relationship was damaged beyond repair he always resented it and hated primary school because of it, was given the choice of boarding school for secondary and jumped at it!