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Parents sending children to cm while they are on holiday themselves

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susiemumof · 17/05/2012 12:29

Not looking for a argument or aibu type thread.

Am new to cm and have a 6mo mindee 60 hours per week, mum has a day off next week (which she did not even need to tell me about) but has said she will still send said mindee as she would like a day to herself.

I actually offer a large discount on days when mindees are not with me so can't even put it down to wanting to get her monies worth.

Was just really wondering how common other childminders have found this?

It's obviously no problem for me to have the child and I am loving my new job, it just makes me a bit sad for the baby itswim.

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BoringSchoolChoiceNickname · 17/05/2012 22:05

I wasn't arguing that having nails done was a reasonable use of time FFS, I was arguing that you don't have a clue whether she's having her nails done or bikini shopping or having 2 hours of root canal surgery, or a job interview, or any number of essential things that can't be done at the weekend and are best done without a baby if at all possible

LtEveDallas · 17/05/2012 22:04

Who said the mother was having her nails done? OP doesn't know what she was doing (and yet she chose to judge, huh.)

LtEveDallas · 17/05/2012 22:03

Faye, my DD was looked after by her father for 2 years whilst I was at work, and then went to nursery from 2.5 yrs till 3 yrs when we moved overseas. I think I met her primary nursery nurse 3 or 4 times. NN didn't know me, so would have no reason to judge me.

trixymalixy · 17/05/2012 22:00

How do you know she has the weekend to herself? She could be working. No one really knows the full situation.

FayeGovan · 17/05/2012 21:59

ha evedallas. dont worry, am sure the girls looking after your kids in nursery would never judge you

NOT

TwoCrazyKids · 17/05/2012 21:58

LtEveDallas, Nursery's judge too!

FayeGovan · 17/05/2012 21:58

the baby's 6 months, it can go to things with you

and if the mothers having her nails done instead of spending time with her baby she rarely sees to me that says cant be arsed

LtEveDallas · 17/05/2012 21:56

you can be assured [ ] can't be arsed Or you can be assured they have something else to do that isn't baby-friendly. Or you can be assured that it is fuck all to do with you.

Like I said earlier - that attitude is exactly why I would choose a nursery over a childminder. I think judging other parental choices stinks and I wouldn't want my precious child around anyone with views like that - not with one to one care.

BoringSchoolChoiceNickname · 17/05/2012 21:54

Faye you cannot "be assured" - don't be bloody ridiculous. Last time I sent my DCs to school and took the day off work was because I was having breast screening. All was fine as it turned out but I couldn't have done it on the weekend, or taken DCs with me.

OP's client might be having a chest X-ray or she might be having her nails done - neither you nor she have the least clue. In a few months time the OP will probably know the score.

AThingInYourLife · 17/05/2012 21:53

"she is being judged for having a day to herself"

She has every weekend to herself. Isn't that enough?

Meglet · 17/05/2012 21:51

I've always sent the DC's to nursery on my days off.

I have a whole week off soon and they will be at school + nursery every day. I have months of stuff to catch up with (am almost at cracking point), that includes going to the gym and catching up with a couple of people.

trixymalixy · 17/05/2012 21:49

I'm feeling quite sorry for the mother tbh, she is back at work 60 hours a week when her baby is only 6 months old, she's separated from her baby's father, and she is being judged for having a day to herself Hmm. She possibly has PND and needs that day to herself.

FayeGovan · 17/05/2012 21:45

op, I've childminded and I can tell you some people can't be arsed with their own kids, simple as that

the baby you mind sounds lovely, you must enjoy having her, but if the parents send her to you 60 hours then don't want a rare day off with her you can be assured they fall into the category of cant be arsed

of course childminders judge parents, we are mums(usually) first, childminders second, if all the parents on this thread are so sure of their choices then they wont/shouldn't give a rats arse if their childminder judges them

anyway the op was asking childminders their views,as she is new to childminding, she wasn't asking for the usual working- mum- defensive- posts you read so much on here

so go on, flame me instead of her

eastnorth · 17/05/2012 21:32

I don't think the op is being judgemental, she only posted on here with her opinion she did not say the mother should be with baby on her day of I think she was a bit shocked that someone who left her baby for
that amount of time would choose to do it when she didn't need to.

susiemumof · 17/05/2012 21:31

Also if mindees mum did keep her at home I would have a very rare day with my own dd just the two of us.

I work 5 days a week to be able to afford treats for us all and I love what I do but I won't lie, a day just dd and I would be bliss.

Personally hair appointments etc seem to be a thing of the past but everyone is different.

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susiemumof · 17/05/2012 21:28

My op was never about whether the mum should take the day of or not, it was asking other childminders what their experience was off this.

There seems to be a lot of people with guilt about how they manage their own childcare on this thread! Why else would you all be so defensive and hurt if you really felt you were doing nothing wrong Hmm

I am very very fond of mindee, she is no bother at all and I love looking after her, I was just surprised that her mum did not choose to keep her at home when she has a day off and was asking if other childminders had experience of this.

I wonder if when she has her two weeks leave in the summer if she will still send her dd, not in a judgemental way but just being curious. I will be asking her about this soon though when I give her my summer leave dates.

As for the poster who commented about me being on mumsnet while working-mindee does actually have naps!! I also sometimes potter about online while she is sat with me, I look for ideas on what to do with her, send her mum pics of her, check on-line banking etc

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choceyes · 17/05/2012 21:12

Gosh I have 2 little ones in nursery 3 days a week 8.30-4.30pm and I occassionally have a day off with my DH when he's on school hols (he is a teacher), maybe 2 or 3 times a year and it is lovely!! Otherwise either I am at work or looking after 2 DCs. I need a day off to myself occassionally. I feel like I do see my DC's enough during the week, as I get about 4hours a day on working days and 2 whole days with them and also the weekend.

DH works full time, but we still send the DCs to nursery for the 3 days a week when he is on school hols. He has a stressful job. And it's not even that he just sits on his bum. He gets lots of jobs done, like clean the house from top to bottom, DIY jobs etc that is impossible to do with two little ones around. So does that make him a bad father? He is at home most days by 6pm, so he is there for dinner, bed and bath time everyday.

OP, YANBU to feel sad for the baby. 60 hours is a long time at nursery (mine go for 24 hours a week and that feels about right for us). But if you are providing good care for the baby and it sounds like you are, then things will be OK, no reason for the baby to suffer really.
Although at 6 months both my babies were like leetches to me, wouldn't even go to anyone else, especially my DD. But babies are different.

seeingstars · 17/05/2012 20:39

I am an ex childminder and this makes me quite cross. So what? the mum wants a day to herself, big deal. Hmm And what about the dad?

HolyCameraConfusionBatman · 17/05/2012 20:35

Dozer you can be sad for the baby and understanding to the mother.

I'm sad for the kids I look after sometimes, when neither their mum or dad can make it to a play/assembley for example. I also fully understand and support why they choose to work. I can feel two emotions at the same time.

What's the etc.? What else has she said other than she feels sad for the baby?

Dozer · 17/05/2012 20:28

The OP certainly IS being judgy, "sad for the baby" etc.

HolyCameraConfusionBatman · 17/05/2012 20:17

I don't know if I'm missing something, but I can't see how the OP is being judgey? She can feel sad for the baby whilst also being understanding towards the mother. As humans we are able to feel two emotions at the same time.

DowagersHump · 17/05/2012 20:06

Maybe she needs her hair done/wants a bikini wax/has a ton of stuff to do?

I am a single mother who has worked full time pretty much since DS was 7 months old. You don't get time to do anything for yourself. Go to the gym, go clothes shopping, get your hair cut. All those things that you can't legitimately take time off work to do or do in the evening if you're solely responsible for childcare. So I have taken time off work AND kept DS in childcare. What a horrible mother I am Hmm

At the age of 5, my DS is doing far better than whatever you're supposed to be able to do at his age when it comes to social and emotional skills incidentally. So he doesn't appear to be fucked up by my being a full time working single parent at all. And, let's face it, if you stay at home and claim income support, you're even more vilified.

LadyWidmerpool · 17/05/2012 19:50

I'm off on Monday and baby is going to nursery. Because clearly I don't love her and am a bad mother.

Or I need sleep and time alone with my husband, it's paid for and I don't want to disrupt her routine.

No one knows what's going on in this woman's life, she could have all sorts to deal with.

ragged · 17/05/2012 19:37

I thought OP was going to be saying the family was going abroad for weeks on hol without baby. 1 day, Pah, tis nothing.

AThingInYourLife · 17/05/2012 19:35

"The CM is providing 60 hours a week of childcare, so unless this mother works right next door to the CM, she works a 60+ hour week."

No, if she works right next door she does 60 hours max.

If she works further away she does less than that.

Not that it matters, clearly she and the baby both have a very long week.

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