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Parents sending children to cm while they are on holiday themselves

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susiemumof · 17/05/2012 12:29

Not looking for a argument or aibu type thread.

Am new to cm and have a 6mo mindee 60 hours per week, mum has a day off next week (which she did not even need to tell me about) but has said she will still send said mindee as she would like a day to herself.

I actually offer a large discount on days when mindees are not with me so can't even put it down to wanting to get her monies worth.

Was just really wondering how common other childminders have found this?

It's obviously no problem for me to have the child and I am loving my new job, it just makes me a bit sad for the baby itswim.

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susiemumof · 20/05/2012 12:20

Monkey I really could not care less what your childcare arrangments are, I don't care how shocked you are about sending your ds to nursery for a whole day while you have a scan (although I wish you every luck with it) I don't even care what my own mindees mum does on her day off. Infact after trying to make sense of half the posts on here I wonder if I will ever cate about anything again! Confused

All I was wanting to know was about about something that I have had no experience off and thought others could help.

I am obviously not making myself clear despite posting the same thing countless times so I am definitely leaving this time.

If I ever need to ask a childminding question again not bother stick to the childminding forum!

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monkeymoma · 20/05/2012 12:12

I've also sent him while I used days off to job hunt or to attend interviews, can't take your child to interviews! I don't like to tell anyone when I have an interview because it makes me more nervous if people know so as far as my childcare providers know I'm having "me time"

monkeymoma · 20/05/2012 12:10

well the answer is obviously yes because it wouldn't necessarily be quality time if the child was at home because some days off have to be given over to maintanence and paperwork and scans (which you can't take LOs to but don't necessarily want to tell your CM about). If you have support then they can take the child to the playground etc while you do this, if not isn't it better to send them to childcare where they are interracted with and entertained?

There have been times when I've asked DS's nursery to take him for an EXTRA session on a day when I'm off work so that I can get things done that either I couldn't do if he was there, or that would involve him being very bored.

I'm taking a day off to have a dating scan soon, no children allowed, DH at work, no free support, so will be looking to put DS in for an extra day of childcare while I have a DAY OFF! Shock - not telling the nursery why though! why should I? and yes it'll be a whole day because I will distress DS if it is bad news and I pick him up straight after

insancerre · 20/05/2012 12:09

You are paid to provide a service. What the parent does while you are providing that service has bugger all to do with you. Unless you make it a condition of using your service that mindees can only atend while parents work.

RandomNumbers · 20/05/2012 12:02

okay, so the answer to your post of 12 noon today is yes, perfectly normal for the child to come to the CM regardless of what arrangements the parents have made for their day

redglow · 20/05/2012 12:01

Well monkey if my daughter left her baby all week and then wanted me to have him for a day why she did her things I would say no.

susiemumof · 20/05/2012 12:00

My post would be invalid if mindee was spending the day with auntie or granny!!

My op is about whether childminders get mindees sent when parents have a day off it's got bugger all to do with the fact mum wants a day to herself and everything to do with the fact I am a new childminder looking for advice!

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monkeymoma · 20/05/2012 11:54

so answer then, would you post the same if someone sent LOs for a day with their granny or aunty to get some rest/sort the house/do the shopping/whatever?

redglow · 20/05/2012 11:50

I don't think you are unprofessional for posting if that was the case there a loads of posts on here from nannies and childminders. Better put it on here than slag the parents off so other people can overhear. When I have worked in nurseries this happens all the time all day, one of the reasons I do not work in nurseries anymore.

I have nannied where the mum has sat in her car reading so I don't finish a minute early.

I have also nannied for people that don't work at all. Like you I find this hard to understand but I suppose each to their own we are not all made the same.

I think it is a very sensitive subject and that's why you have got such a reaction even though you have never once said that mothers should not leave their children.

susiemumof · 20/05/2012 11:49

Errr yes monkey, I do have some experience of having no support since I stay 5 hours from my family and have a dh who spends most of the year out the country.

Are you wanting to turn it into a competitive hard done by thread now?

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monkeymoma · 20/05/2012 11:42

for me when I used a CM it was outsourcing where traditionally grannies our aunties would have stepped in. Some people have NO free support so have to outsource.
Noone but noone but noone would criticise a mother for leaving LO with granny our aunty to have some rest/me time/early scan they don't want to tell you about/do paperwork/sort the house out. But if your only option for that is CM its SAAAAD! Hmm
And then sell yourself as a home from home?, an aunty like figure? hmph!

susiemumof · 20/05/2012 11:29

I have also left my eldest two for three nights on two occasions. Have left the three of them for one night on two separate occasions.

Like I have said I am not judging her for leaving her child, I said in my op that it was not my business and she did not even need to tell me she had the day off.

She often does things before picking mindee up, popping to the shop or putting her dinner on then quickly picking mindee up to go home and eat. Not once has this bothered me, it never would.

Infact if anything it makes my life easier that she always turns up at the same time so I can stick to my own routine.

What I was asking was if it was usual for mums to still send their dc while they had the whole day off.

I'm am new to childminding and this is the first time I have had crop up, like I have also said I started my business by offering a discount for days not attended as I presumed that it would be helpful to parents.

Also for those who are so worried that mindees mum may see this I have (of course) made a few subtle changes to my info!

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seeingstars · 20/05/2012 11:18

Good post Xenia. Smile

Xenia · 20/05/2012 11:06

The prinipcle that if you are a mother (or a father) and have spare time eg weekend or day off you must spend it with a child which is under 3 is just wrong. There are lots of things that need to be done in life including just sorting out the house. In most cases if a parent isn't working but their spouse, granny or child minder have the child they tend to be doing things like washing or buying food or tidying up. Secondly even if they are not if they can afford it why should they not have some time off even if just to sleep? Parenthood is not martrydom and most parents although they may want the odd day off in general do want to spend most of the rest of their time with their under 3s even if both parents work full time.

We left a 1 and 3 year old when we went on a week's holiday - I was 5 months pregnant. I did when we got back feel it was a bit long. I missed them. They were with their nanny who came every day and also their grand mother and aunt stayed too. We didn't do it again although it was a very restful week. It just felt a bit too long to be away from such little children. I certainly feel they suffered. I just missed them. However I wouldn't criticise anyone who did and the 1 year old was nearly 2 and had stopped breastfeeding - she stopped about one year of age so there were no breastfeeding issues.

seeingstars · 20/05/2012 10:47

The child was 2! I'm sure he didn't give a flying doughnut about going to the wedding. He probably had a lovley time at Grannys. The parents didn't leave him home alone and bugger off. Seesh.

scottishmummy · 20/05/2012 10:45

your op and tone is judgmental
hence,strong response youve received
now given you also work a 60hour week,like the my you describe. and your children are with the mindees 60 hr week..then I'd expect you to have some empathy

and yes as you can see plenty mums leave kid at cm and pursue an activity in their own

Llareggub · 20/05/2012 10:42

Because you are paid to provide a service, and with that there is an implication that you don't discuss situations like the one you described on a public forum. A shocking breach of trust, I think, and one which would question my faith and trust in you to care for my children.

Where paying for my mortgage comes into it is the judgmental posts in this thread, not necessarily from you, that judge parents for leaving their children to go to work.

susiemumof · 20/05/2012 10:32

Can not believe I am getting drawn back into this again!!

Llare- can you please tell me how unearth your post fits in with my original post? What has me asking childminders for there own experiences got to do with you paying your mortgage!

Oakmaiden- believe it or not I actually speak to mindees parents and have friendly chats with them during drop off/ pick up time. We don't have one of these slide drawers you see in banks to push her under! Mum gives her a kiss goodbye on a Friday telling her she will see her Monday and dad fills me in Monday morning on how her routine has been over the weekend.

I will now wait on someone coming along and telling me that the parents are actually cheeky pranksters who just pretend she spends weekends with dad [bangs head on keyboard]

Like I have said before my op was not nasty about the mum in the slightest, I have been a working mum and I have used childcare. I was wanting feedback from childminders about something I had no experience off and was surprised about.

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Llareggub · 20/05/2012 10:13

I could stay at home with my children all the time. Trouble is, we'd soon lose the house as I would not be able to pay the mortgage or provide food. Far better that I go off to work.

So glad I don't use a CM though. Fancy breaking confidentiality in such a way by posting quite specific details on the Internet. If you want to be treated as professionals then you need to act professionally.

Blondeshavemorefun · 20/05/2012 09:56

seems a little sad that they didnt want J at their wedding - but maybe was a small do and they just wanted to have a special day for them-at 2 he wont rem the day

and sure he was told he was staying at grannys for 2 weeks -again i dont see the problem-a honeymoon is meant to be a special time for adults not kids

prob was their last big expense and again i dont see the problem in parents having adult holidays for them - the average child has a great time at grannys/friends/with me when i look after children when parents wants 'me' time

just as long as they then have a family holiday as well

5madthings · 19/05/2012 22:49

well at just 2yrs old he wont even know or understand what a wedding is really, maybe they wanted a child free wedding and to relax for the day?

as for the honeymoon, they left him with his grandma, he may well ahve been told he was going to stay with grandma and at that age may have forgotten?

people leave their children with cms and in nurseries or with friends and relatives for all sorts of reasons, its not for anyone to judge, so what if the mum was using her day off to something fun for herself (and wehave no idea waht she was going to do with her day) the child was left in the care of someone responsible not on its own in a cot in an empty house all day, that i would be judgey about!

i am assuming that all these people who are so judgey of the mum never leave their children ever.

scottishmummy · 19/05/2012 22:37

save it as an anecdote to be recycled on future working mums threads
proof they are all heartless
as in what kind of mammy does that, few Sad Sad faces

Borntobeamum · 19/05/2012 22:23

Scottishmummy......J didn't even know about the wedding.
Odd. Very odd.

scottishmummy · 19/05/2012 22:19

I is well ard

FayeGovan · 19/05/2012 22:17

sm, come on

you think pissing off for 2 weeks and not even telling your 2 and 1/2 yr old isn't shite?

even you aren't that hard

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