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history · 14/04/2012 09:22

Our new (first) nanny has just started this last week with us and I am trying to find the right balance between giving her some freedom but also knowing what/who my children are doing/meeting. She started last week and asked to take the children bowling - we said fine but then in the diary book which we sue to communicate with each other if as I start earely/finsih late on certain days (we didn't see each other last week as my OH did the handovers) it was obvious after the event that she had arranged to go bowling with other children that I/my children don't know. I suspect they may be her own family members. Is it unreasonable for me to ask that my kids only meet up with other children that they/we know or that I have been asked about?
Also she impressed upon us the need for planning at interview and there are no activities planned in the diary (or at least written for next week) - I now have to call her sunday evening (she's away this weekend) to ask what she's intending on doing with my boys next week as it's the last week of their school hols. I recognise that I am getting used to leaving my children (HENCE A LITTLE EMOTINAL/TIRED THIS WEEK) and going back to work and don't want to upset an experienced and good nanny but I do want to know what my children are up to! Any thought from other parents/nannies very welcome!

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Grabaspoon · 14/04/2012 21:06

Why did you have that rule You'll?

YoullLaughAboutItOneDay · 14/04/2012 21:01

I agree with a lot of what other people have said, but also have a few extra comments.

I agree that I don't think it's reasonable to say that they can only meet up with people they know. However, I do think some things would be reasonable:

  • to ask that, if she specifically makes plans with someone you don't know, she lets you know who they are when she tells you about the plans. So on this occasion she asked if it was ok to go bowling. You'd prefer if she'd said she'd like to go bowling with another nanny she knows and the children she looks after (or whatever). I do think if she's asking about plans, it's reasonable to expect a full picture. Different if the others only tagged along at the last minute though.
  • I always had a rule (suggested by our nanny) that our nanny didn't take DD to the house of someone we didn't know without telling us - even if sometimes that was a text during the day when it was suggested. I know this was bowling, but this might be a useful rule for you too?
  • I don't think your nanny should be socialising with her own family during working hours. So if it turned out that was the case, I think it would be reasonable to ask her not to.

Please don't call her at the weekend. Can't you leave her a note for Monday in the book (or speak to her), just saying it would be nice if she planned an outing or two for the end of the holidays?

HolyLentenPromiseBatman · 14/04/2012 20:49

The same as everyone else but;

'Is it unreasonable for me to ask that my kids only meet up with other children that they/we know or that I have been asked about?'

Yes, that's ridiculous. It's good for children to make friends/play with other kids. What exactly is your concern? Your children meet/play with/enjoy the company of some children you've never met and then.....what? What's the problem?

'I now have to call her sunday evening (she's away this weekend) to ask what she's intending on doing with my boys next week'

NO. You, absolutely do NOT need to call her on Sunday to find out what she is planning to do with your boys next week. She's been with you one week. Do you think it's possible she doesn't know your boys well enough yet to be able to predict what they're going to want to do the following week? You can ask her on Monday morning what she is planning to do (when she will have a better idea based on the weather etc.).

You've hired an experienced and good nanny, trust that the other children she takes them to play with and the activities that she organises will be good also.

Grabaspoon · 14/04/2012 18:53

Yep I also take photos which I email to my bosses or get printed on a regular basis - but have recently started sending photos via whatsapp so straight away she can be involved in what we're up to.

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/04/2012 17:55

i always email pics to mb and db of what we have done if been out and about

basically trust your nanny and her judgement and if you cant trust her then she shouldnt be looking after your children

eurycantha · 14/04/2012 15:56

I popped back on to totally agree about getting your nanny to take photos when out with the children . I gave my camera to my boss at the end of the holidays and she downloaded pictures of the children at the park ,feeding deer,Doing science experiments at home complete with goggles,I actually took photos the first time I took them bowling and then the first time on a pony and it is great for parents to see exactly what their child has done occasionally.Don`t expect photo s every day perhaps on special occasions and days out.

Grabaspoon · 14/04/2012 15:53

I am a nanny and tbh would not appreciate being called on my day off to arrange my work plans for the following week. How would you feel if your boss called you on your day off at home with your family to ask how you had arranged your work schedule for the week ahead?

I tend to have the same activities during the week which are up on a family calendar in the kitchen and then I can add extra playdates etc to it when we get booked up (usually a week ahead) however often we do just have no plans, or things change (someone is sick), my charge asks to do something else/shows an interest in something else.

Regarding friends - how will your children make friends if they don't get to meet new people? My boss trusts me with her most precious belonging; her child; and as such trusts that friends we meet/see will become good friends of ours. Although she has only met a handful (as she usually comes home during the day) she likes hearing about our friends and will ask after them or will ask questions to find out more about someone we have spent time with.

Do you trust her?

How much control do you want?

nannynick · 14/04/2012 15:38

To answer my own question... a quick search says your children are aged 2 and 5 and you have been a SAHM for the past 5.5 years. Is that right?

No wonder you are finding it hard to let go but you have made the decision to go to work and leave them in the care of someone else. Whilst you do have some control over what your nanny does, you don't want to be micromanaging them. You want your boys to have fun, to enjoy themselves with your nanny and not miss you too much being at work.

It's term time again soon, so things will start to fall into a pattern then. There will be the school run to do, there will be toddler group, there will be regular activities such as swimming, music group, that sort of thing.

Did your boys like bowling? I expect your 5 year old did and your 2 yr old might have, depending on his ability to roll the ball down the ramp.

What sort of things would you have been doing with your children if you had been at home? One of the things about having a nanny is that your nanny can do things that you might not do yourself, or dislike taking the children yourself (softplay!). Your nanny may have particular interests, they may love the countryside and do a lot of walking, or may like history and will take your boys about historic places. Your children may get to do things they wouldn't do if you were at home.

Try to figure out what your actual issue is. Is it that you just want to know where they are - thus them texting you with a location from time to time may work. That you want to know what they have done - photos may help - (if the nanny is using their own car, you will get the mileage details at the end of the month).

nannynick · 14/04/2012 15:25

Is it unreasonable for me to ask that my kids only meet up with other children that they/we know or that I have been asked about?

Yes, I think it is unreasonable as it makes things very restrictive. Your children can't make new friends even with children they meet at school, as if your nanny is taking and collecting from school you may never meet their school friends.

How would asking first help? Nanny could ask if it's ok to meet up with other nannies and the children in their care... what would you respond. No? Yes?

Also she impressed upon us the need for planning at interview and there are no activities planned in the diary (or at least written for next week)

Planning things in advance is often the route to disappointment I find. Things can change quickly with children... or indeed the weather. So whilst there may be a general plan of action, it needs to flexible and I feel it's best to accommodate children's wishes as much as possible. Nothing like dragging a child out somewhere they don't want to go. Far easier if you have some buy-in from the child - they want to see a castle... off you all go to a castle.

I now have to call her sunday evening (she's away this weekend) to ask what she's intending on doing with my boys next week as it's the last week of their school hols.

You should not be contacting your nanny over the weekend about such matters. Are your boys happy in her care? That's what you should focus on in my view. Your boys will no doubt moan if they don't like the activities they do.

Does your nanny take photos whilst out on outings? Maybe that could help to show you that your boys are enjoying themselves. Maybe your nanny could text you during the day as to what they are doing, where they are. Doesn't need to be something you reply to... just a text like - We are at Legoland. We are on a steam train. We are at a castle.

How old are your children? You have not mentioned about feeds, or naps, so I don't think your children are that young.

What did you do before you had this nanny? I am wondering if you are finding it hard to let go and trust someone else to care for your children. Trust does take time to build up but unless you give them enough freedom, they can't show you that they can be trusted with that freedom.

eurycantha · 14/04/2012 15:08

Hi History ,I am a nanny and have been for a very long time ,[I heard that Blondes]I have just had the Easter holidays with my three charges who are twins 5 and 7year old.I arranged activities in the holiday ,The cinema,country park and that we would be making birthday cards for various family members .these obviously were only three days ,the remainder of the holidays I generally get to work in the morning and decide what we are going to do when I am there mostly dependent on the weather and what the children want to do,they may say" can we go to the park,or want to stay at home on the trampoline or playing in the garden,one may ask for paint,or puzzles.So generally I go along with what they fancy doing we arranged playdates due to illness a parent cancelled so we finished off homework that day.
Excuse rambling what I wanted to say was give your nanny abit of slack if she is planning alonger trip she should tell you ,I have taken mine bowling with friends of mine ,as long as the friends children are the same general age as your DC then any socialising is good for them,I do not generally invite children and parents to the house without my boss having met them.I think that don`t worry too much about what your children are going to do trust your nanny to have fun activities and she should give you some idea afterwards of what they have done that day either verbally or in a diary,This is why no nanny leaves on time because we have a handing over period when we tell bosses how children were or perhaps they tried a new activity .

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/04/2012 13:48

obviously if your nanny has just started then your children wont know any nannies your nanny knows and their charges that they look after - as neither will you

are you being serious that your children can only see people that you know?? gonna be a lonely life for your nanny

its good for children and adults to make new friends and learn to socialise and share etc -so yes yabu :)

erm why do you need to call her on her day off to see what plans she has got - can you not ask her monday am, or nanny send you a text saying what she is planning to do once she has decided/got to work

i totally understand she is your first nanny and hard for you to let go and not know what your dc are up to BUT you need to allow the nanny a little freeedom

by all means write in the diary activities planned, but often the best laid plans go wrong and i may say going to play centre with julie and kids, but then turns out its a sunny day so a shame to play inside and julies kids were sick in the night - so AVOID lol so saw another friend etc

npg1 · 14/04/2012 09:35

Hello, as a previous nanny and now mother I will try and offer some advice.

I think for the nanny to meet up with friends is good. She may have a circle of nanny friends and I understand what you mean about your children not knowing these children but its always good for children to make new friends and in time they will be friends.

You dont say how old your children are?

Perhaps you could enthasis the fact that you would like her to write in the dirary every evening so you can read what the children are up to?

Hopefully someone else will come along with some more advice.