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My 20 month-old calls his childminder 'mummy'

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Dairylea · 21/03/2012 14:07

Hi - Go gently on me, fellow mums netters! I've read a lot of (helpful) threads over the last couple of years but this is the first bit of help I've really needed. My 20 month old ds has a fantastic childminder. I work from home so he is only with her from 9.30-12.30 in the mornings, with one day a week until 5.30pm. He's a very affectionate and loving boy, happy and confident and we have a great time together. He's had the childminder for 3 months and I think she's great - very active, very kind, has a dd of her own and never has more than 4 kids at any one time, and often only two. But the children she minds call her 'mummy'. The first time she told me about it I thought it was because one of the girls she looked after, she'd had since she was 4 months old for over a year. And as her own daughter is often around, the other children hear her being called mummy. So I thought I had better just get over it. But just now, I collected my boy and we all walked down the road together. She was telling me that she'd been playing a game with him - what's your name? (And he says his name.) What's the baby's name? (And my ds says the baby's name.) Then she said: "I asked him, 'What's my name? And he said mummy.' And she smiled proudly. I was a bit gobsmacked. Then, to really drive the point home, she did it all again with him, in front of me.

She really is great, and I don't want to rock my son's world by finding someone else. Nor do I want to engage in some sort of competitive game with my son's affections. I'm completely comfortable that he loves me and knows I love him. But I am deeply unsettled by what happened this morning. Do I just need to get over myself? Or should I say something? Help, please!

Thank you.

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FloweryFun · 27/03/2012 16:49

thats not good.... :/

Fillybuster · 23/03/2012 13:16

Ah...now I've caught up and realised that a) you've sorted it and b) my response might have been a bit disproportionate.

Sorry, we had a nanny who lost sight of her 'boundaries' with my dcs and I don't think I'll ever quite recover...!

Glad you've got it under control :)

girliefriend · 23/03/2012 13:14

Glad you said something I wouldn't like that, although my dd went through a phase of calling me the childminders name - that was Blush Grin

Fillybuster · 23/03/2012 13:13

Haven't read all the responses, but I would have a huuuuuge problem with that. It's one thing that lots of children call their carers 'mummy' by mistake sometimes, its quite another for her to actively encourage that, or to set herself up in competition with you for that 'title'.

Your ds has one mummy, and that's you. No-one else gets to muscle in on that.

Tbh, I'm shocked that none of the others parents have complained, but I would change cms right away. I know he's happy and settled, but he has only been there for 3 months....she's a bunny boiler, and you really don't want her looking after your child....

kkoo · 23/03/2012 13:06

It is not uncommon at all for children to call their caregiver (mother or not) Mummy especially when so young. I have a mindee who always calls me Mummy, and his last CM too! I always refer to myself by name to discourage but with this lad I am getting nowhere fast!
It does sound like your minder could have been demonstrating how clever your son is to identify different people, rather than to encourage him to call her Mummy.
BUT I wouldn't like it and it shows that she is letting him call her Mummy without correction, so yes if it bothers you have a word with her.

EBDteacher · 22/03/2012 19:44

Oh that's good you sorted it with her- a great childminder is worth her weight in gold, you wouldn't want to lose one over something like that.

Just came on to say my DS (now 19mo) went through a phase at about 11/12 months of calling me by his childminder's name. I didn't mind at first but I did get to the point where I felt a bit sad not hearing him call me mummy. He now has a different childminder (because #1 retired sadly). He currently calls his new CM by her dog's name!! So it really is an area that can cause a bit of confusion to a young child!!

redglow · 22/03/2012 17:14

That's great you got it sorted.

HolyLentenPromiseBatman · 22/03/2012 12:54

oh good, I like it when it all works out!

Dairylea · 22/03/2012 11:10

Hello all - thank you all again so much for your encouraging messages. Helped me not think I was going a bit mad! So I thought you'd like to know that I talked to her about it this morning, when I dropped my ds off. I said: "After our conversation yesterday, I just wanted to say that I would prefer it if he called you X [her name] rather than Mummy." "Oh, yes!" she said, "I've been thinking about it and..." "I just think it's less confusing," I said. And she agreed. Phew! Maybe she saw something in my face yesterday, or maybe she just thought about it. But I'm really happy. I wouldn't have had the courage to face it if it hadn't been for mumsnet but it's also great that she took it well as she really is good (not at all creepy, I promise!) and we have a nice relationship otherwise. So that's another mumsnet solution and I hope this thread helps anyone else in the future.

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fionathepink · 22/03/2012 10:50

The little girl I mind keeps calling me 'mummy' because I have DS1 at home too. I make a point of referring to myself in the third person when talking to her and as 'mum' to DS1 because kids need to differentiate between the role of the minder and role of their mother.

Talk to your minder and also have a chat to find out how the other parents feel. This is your DD so you get final say if you are not comfortable with something.

I am surprised your minder is encouraging it.

anewyear · 22/03/2012 10:23

Yep I too have been called all sorts from My christian name which begins with an M and ends with a Y, easy I suppose to get mixed up with Mummy, Mum, Teachers name, TAs name, ex Nannys name, ex Childminders name doesnt bother me just gently correct them, but mostly (my mindees are that bit older) they tend to correct themselves anyway.
My 2 use my christian name when the minded kids are here.

I do find it rather odd that she doesnt correct them, I second what everyone else says and have a quiet word about it.

thebody · 22/03/2012 09:46

She sounds like a bit of an idiot to be honest. I am always extremely aware of parental sensitivities like this, of course littlies do call me mum sometimes but I always correct them. A good childminder has to manage parents feelings and be very tactful.

Have a word and no are right to feel cross about this.

minderjinx · 22/03/2012 06:57

I think at best it's insensitive of her not to anticipate that you might find this hurtful. I have to say that all the little ones I have cared for have called me Mum or Mummy or Mama at some stage in their development, and in some cases this has been a difficult habit to break, but I have gently corrected them whether or not a parent was present (and been thankful that they have seldom done it when real Mum has been around). My own children often call me by my Christian name too. I agree you should raise it with her and hopefully she will wake up to her tactlessness and behave more appropriately.

DeepThought · 21/03/2012 23:19

yes, I would ask her to explain

very odd for her to encourage being called Mummy by the children she minds, and yes, confusing for the children

My own children called me by my first name quite often, as they were used to hearing me called it by the tinies

oftengrumpy · 21/03/2012 23:07

I think it's normal for a child to call their CM (or nursery worker or even teacher!) Mummy. MY DS called his CM Mummy when he was about 2 as he didn't have a lot of clear words and Mummy got a response. He was always very clear that she was a mummy but I was his Mummy IYSWIM. What I think is odd is her encouraging it in this way. My CM used to correct him in a nice way like this:

DS " Mummy, dink peas."
CM " Yes littlegrumpy Susan will get you a drink."

Maybe you could encourage her to do that sort of thing?

Good luck you are not unreasonable to be upset by this or to speak to her about it.

Blu · 21/03/2012 20:28

I too have come across children this age calling any adult looking after them 'Mummy' as they seem to think it is the noun for a caregiver. My friends toddler, who has a new baby brother, talked of as 'BabyTom' has started calling her grown up siblings 'babyJoe', BabyAndrew' etc.

But a cm, or anyone, encouraging a child to call them Mummy when they are not is odd.

I would ask her why she does it, and you are concerned about it causing confusion.

BackforGood · 21/03/2012 20:21

I too assumed you meant that the dcs accidently called her Mummy when distracted or tired, and was going to say - perfectly normal. But her telling them to is definitely odd. I would say to her that I'm not happy with him being confused like this and what would she prefer to be called.... Jane ? Aunty Jane ? Mrs Smith ? and see which she prefers. Make it clear though that the children have their own Mums so obviously that's not an option.

eastnorth · 21/03/2012 20:14

This childminder sounds very odd. You can only have one mum. its like she thinks its great the child is calling her mum.

CheerfulYank · 21/03/2012 20:07

Hmm..bit odd for her to encourage it, I think.

My childminder's elderly father used to help her and the kids did call him Grandpa Charlie (or in DS's case "Papa Char-wee") but mummy is different I think.

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fivesacrowd · 21/03/2012 18:52

Could it be that her name sounds like mummy if said by a little person - I've got a 20 month old mindee who calls me mama, simply cos it's close to my name and easy for him to say. However, if I thought he was calling me mummy I would def correct him - it would be weird and wrong to encourage it!

Dairylea · 21/03/2012 15:14

Hi all - thank you so much for this. It helps to know that I am not being oversensitive. I wanted to say something about it when I first heard that her mindees called her mummy but my dh discouraged me. I thought maybe he'd grow out of it or that when the little girl left (she did a month ago) that it would stop then. I really don't think she's creepy - I think she's loving just maybe a bit too much so! I think I'll suggest that we think of a special name for her. Thank you again. Phew!

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redglow · 21/03/2012 15:12

This is creepy.

HolyLentenPromiseBatman · 21/03/2012 14:36

Some kids go through a phase of calling all female caregivers 'mummy'.

Almost all kids, will at some point, call a teacher/nanny/childminder 'mummy' by mistake.

That's all normal, but for the childminder to be encouraging him to call her that is a bit weird imo.

I would say to her 'mummy is the word DS uses for me, so I'd rather we encourage him to call you something different so he isn't confused and we know what/who he's talking about'.

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