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Extra pay for playdates

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littlesue · 21/03/2012 00:18

Nanny has asked for extra pay for playdates from the other mother. I won't be there as I work FT, neither is the other mother. I have 1 DS. It's not in the contract as it hasn't come up before as we have playdates on the weekend when I am around. Nanny has asked for 70% extra on her hourly rate, which I will pay as I would never ask the other mother to pay so her DS can come over for a playdate. What do other nannies do? I can see nanny's POV as it is an extra child.

Also if my DS goes to a playdate elsewhere do I pay my nanny to stay at home? Nanny would prefer not socialising as she is shy and awkward with adults and has no nanny friends so cannot set up playdates herself.

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Karoleann · 21/03/2012 11:38

If it was for a whole day, I'd pay my nanny extra. If it was an afterschool paydate then I wouldn't pay more.

stepmad · 21/03/2012 11:20

Its part of my job for my chrages to have and go on play dates the younger two have one at least once a week sometimes two. Indeed such a lovely day today i suspect that we might have one tonight. I am fairly shy but there is no way that it would stop me asking. Its a fairly small school and think that we have had most of the class over. Its nice when we go to the park or days out as usually bump into some one that we know. Its good for the children learning to share table maners differant games to play

BornToShopForcedToWork · 21/03/2012 10:33

Hi,

I find this very weird to be honest. I am a nanny and I love playdates, they make my day a bit easier and I want my charges to socialise. Usually the mum/nanny of the other child/ren is there is well but I would never ask for more money if I would look after them on my own. It is part of a nanny's job. Cheeky and weird nanny.

Maybe she doesn't want to have playdates and thinks if she asks for extra money you will say no to the playdates.

BarryShitpeas · 21/03/2012 10:12

No. don't agree to this. Playdates are not chargeable, just part of the job.

confusedpixie · 21/03/2012 10:09

I find it odd too tbh. I am a shy and extremely socially awkward nanny, yet I would still like to organise social things for my charges! (Can't for various reasons at the moment though :( )
I'm really looking forward to it even because nannying is bloody lonely. Not wanting the adult there is fair enough though, but she shouldn't get paid extra as playdates are part of the reason why parents choose nannies isn't it? So that their children can have last minute playdates and have friends over for tea on occasion?

Callaird: Shock That's awful!

callaird · 21/03/2012 09:51

I have in my contract that I require extra payment for looking after extra children, this is because I have worked for families that have really taken the piss, invited friends over with children then expected me to look after them, one family had 8 friends over with babies around a year, shut themselves in the lounge and left me with the babies in the playroom, most of them screaming to get out. (This is after I made two cakes for the coffee morning. Not one of the parents thanked me, not even my boss, I made it clear that I am my charges nanny, if people want experienced child care, they pay for it)

My insurance doesn't cover me to look after loads of children.

That said, if it is just occasionally and the other parents reciprocate, then of course I wouldn't expect added payment!

Having friends over is a perk for nannies, as long as the children actually get along, the children play together and means nanny can play with siblings or do other things in peace. Or of course, get the children to help bake a cake/s for a tea time treat.

HolyLentenPromiseBatman · 21/03/2012 09:47

I've never heard of a nanny wanting extra pay for a playdate, it's just part of the job.

If it was childcare then she'd have a point, but a playdate no way!

Heswall That was very good of your nanny not to ask for extra pay, but I hope you offered anyway?

mummytime · 21/03/2012 09:14

In my experience a good Nanny arranges lots of playdates and doesn't charge extra. They are part of her job in developing your LO. She really needs to socialise more and talk to other Nannies and parents, it is part of her job.

cuddlymanatee · 21/03/2012 09:07

... So don't underestimate the effect of seeing his caregiver shy away from interacting with others and acting like it's to be feared and avoided, I mean.

cuddlymanatee · 21/03/2012 09:05

Perhaps as your nanny hates being social she assumes the only motivation for a playdate must be childcare rather than fun!

Regardless, this would really worry me. The DCs with nannies at my DCs school are often the most sociable - I can understand a one day a week nanny preferring not to host but a f/t nanny surely has that in her remit.

Come to think of it, the first playdates my DC went on both had nannies hosting.

If you host on weekends that does help - we often do that too - but it's not the same really and I feel Sad for your little boy asking to have other kids round (if he's asking you he must be asking nanny too), and being told no.

I'm socially awkward and my DC1 definitely picked up some traits Sad

littlesue · 21/03/2012 08:55

This is her first sole charge nanny job and also my first nanny! So we are both new to this. The other mother has hosted many times as she is sahm so I was more than happy to reciprocate. Now I am feeling bad DS is missing out.

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littlesue · 21/03/2012 08:46

Nanny didn't ask other parent for payment. She asked me whether she would get paid extra from the other parent as it would be an extra child.

Hadn't thought about it before and she said she was happy to have other kids over before but probably hadn't thought about the extra work. She is v shy but I should ask her to arrange playdates rather than me doing the running around.

DS goes to clubs and out of school activities for the social interaction. I use a childminder in the holidays as she takes the kids out and meet other kids, etc, as nanny doesn't drive or know other nannies. I am fully aware of her weaknesses but Blondes has struck a cord - I guess it is starting to worry me that as DS is developing nanny's lack of social skills are becoming more of a problem. Nanny is v kind and caring and patient though.

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TheHamish · 21/03/2012 08:43

Under certain circumstances I would have liked to have been paid. When friends of the family's child was brought round for the entire day so the Mum could attend appointments, and I was given no choice but to care for said child is one example of that. Then when the Mum turned up with flowers to say thank you and handed them to my employer I felt like a prize mug who had had the piss well and truly taken out of me.

The odd playdate though, no. So long as it's reciprocated every now and again.

Grabaspoon · 21/03/2012 08:39

I see that differently Heswall.

But as a nanny to 1 pre-schooler I wouldn't ask for extra money - unless it was as actual childcare ie I need to be at a meeting between 10 and 4 and could you have DC instead of just a playdate.

I love playdates both ones where mums and other nannies stay but also ones where they drop and run! Grin

Casmama · 21/03/2012 08:37

I find it a bit strange that the other mother asked if her child could come over rather than asking your child over to theirs so wonder if there is an element of needing child are which led your nanny to ask for money so I would double check with her.

Heswall · 21/03/2012 08:34

My nanny has looked after 7 other children in addition to my 3 at our house whilst all the mothers and I got drunk attended a jamie oliver party in the garden it wouldn't have occurred to her to ask for more money.
There has to be give and take in the nanny/employer relationship.

smilingthroughgrittedteeth · 21/03/2012 08:30

Both my charges have playdates every week (sometimes on the same day) the youngest tends to be a case of nanny/parent staying and the eldest has friends over after school, in turn they both go to friends houses for playdates, imo its part of my job to encourage them to make friends and learn social skills, I certainly don't expect any extra pay for it.

The only time I have received money for looking after additional children is when my bosses sister comes to stay and usually wants a day to visit friends, shop etc so I look after her children alongside my charges, but that is actually needing childcare not just having friends to play and even then I just usually ask for £10 extra for the day (9-4ish) as they are well behaved and I know when she gets back I can finish early as she is happy to look after my charges so it is an arrangement that benefits us both.

Your nanny is being very cheeky! Is it her first nanny job? As I've never heard of a nanny asking for more pay for playdates, if she worked in nurseries perhaps she thinks that she gets paid per child

bbcessex · 21/03/2012 08:18

No way!!! This is a benefit of a nanny over a childminder (usually).

Weird weird weirdo nanny alert Angry ConfusedEnvyConfusedAngry

What wld she say if you have another DC? 70% more please?

Odd odd odd, be wary, don't pay, tell her the terms, get her to be more socially portable with your poor son, and look out for a new less weird nanny!!

LeeCoakley · 21/03/2012 08:13

I can't imagine a situation where a mother asks if her child can come over to your house! Why not at her house? Probably the nanny feels a bit under pressure to entertain and feed another child. Bit odd to ask for more money though, better to explain her feelings to you.

Crocodilio · 21/03/2012 08:11

Not that shy, if she has asked another parent to pay her for something that should be part and parcel of her role!

leddeeburdee · 21/03/2012 08:07

I can't imagine my ex nanny ever asking for extra money for play dates. I'd be re-thinking my nanny arrangements before paying it too - I think that ad-hoc play dates are just part and parcel of the job.

Iggly · 21/03/2012 07:59

Part of her job IMO! My nanny socialises with the other local nannies - you should encourage her to do the same.

Bit different if the other mum is using your nanny as childcare though.

Gigondas · 21/03/2012 07:57

Perhaps it is danger money?

Agree with blondes - this sounds odd

NannyR · 21/03/2012 07:56

I would never dream of asking for extra pay for a playdate. Sometimes playdates make my job easier in that the kids have someone other than myself to play with!!!

Also, I find that if you get friendly with other mums and nannies and have their kids over for playdates, then they are likely to reciprocate when you need to take time off for a doctors appointment or something like that.

As a nanny you are not paid per child, like a childminder.
Having said that, there have been occasions when I have been looking after preschoolers, where another parent has asked if I could have their child for an hour or so whilst they go for an appointment (with my bosses agreement) and they have given me a tenner, but I certainly wouldn't expect it.

EssentialFattyAcid · 21/03/2012 07:33

Play dates are part and parcel of being a nanny, no extra pay is due and your nanny is v cheeky.