ofsted-registered nannies - hard to find?

Oh there is one for parents too, haven't you got it

Oh I see what you mean. From a quick glance it seems that it doesn't cover:

• Effective communication and engagement with children, young people and families
• Supporting transitions
• Information sharing

I know it's only 8 credits but without seeing the actual course it's not actually possible to say whether it covers the common core in sufficient detail. The blurb certainly makes reference to it but I don't have the time right now or the syllabus fir the Intro course to compare. The ICP was only one unit of a wider qualification too.

Here is an example...

Although on closer inspection I'm not convinced it covers it all

No it doesn't, it is only 8 credits out of the 35 required for Level 2 and as for Level 3 the common core is covered in a number of separate units.

http://www.mnttraining.co.uk/training/childcare_approval/index.htm is an example of a course other than the Level 2 Certificate which (apparently) satisfies the CCS requirement of the voluntary register.

I was inspected & they checked up on things like accident books, that I knew about child protection especially what I would do in case I had a concern, what my attitude towards inclusivity was (um...) and looked over all my documentation again. They also asked if I'd given any advice on health & safety in the home - I'm not live in, and I think my employers had common sense stuff pretty much covered. It was pretty informal.

I think I charge similar rates to other nannies, certainly not more. I've only had one employer pay my registration fee, I usually pay it as it opens up a lot more positions & I'll get the cost of it back over the time in work.

Thanks for the link to registration statistics, looks like I (just) win my bet!

hope you are not in Hartlepool, as there is only 1 Home Childcarer in that region

So I suppose what that really means is that there is only one person in Hartlepool paying a nanny using childcare vouchers.

Anyone know if Actions need to be completed in full, or is signing up for a course enough?

Entirely depends on how the action and the requirement are worded. In that case, as the requirement is to "successfully complete" CCS training and the action is to "ensure that the requirement is met" then signing up would not be enough. If no course were available within one month you could appeal and ask for an extension.

Here is the new common core
www.cwdcouncil.org.uk/common-core
Here is what ofsted have to say
www.ofsted.gov.uk/resources/factsheet-childcare-common-core-skills-and-knowledge

Although on closer inspection I'm not convinced it covers it all....

I think I have found the new common core. Intro to working with children and young people?

Some Statistics

10,250 in the December 2011 report, VCR only.

The breakdown by area (Table 2 of the Dec 2011 xls file) may be interesting to anyone wanting to know how many Home Childcarers there may be near them... hope you are not in Hartlepool, as there is only 1 Home Childcarer in that region.

If Ofsted inspects a Home Childcarer and finds they are not meeting the requirements for training, then they get an Action.

See EY403087 inspection report - they are given a month to comply.

Though maybe to comply it is enough to say you are signed up to do a course, rather than actually having completed a course. Anyone know if Actions need to be completed in full, or is signing up for a course enough?

Whilst looking through inspection reports I found the following Actions that a Home Childcarer (EY379864) got given:

keep and implement a written statement of procedures to be followed for the protection of children, intended to safeguard the children being cared for from abuse or neglect (Arrangements for Safeguarding Children)

keep a written statement of procedures to be followed in relation to complaints which relate to the requirements of the Childcare Register and which a parent makes in writing or by email (Procedures for dealing with complaints)

So there are some paperwork requirements, but it may be a case of the inspector not knowing the regulations... as

CR2.2 says "Home childcarers must ensure they are familiar with issues of child protection and procedures to safeguard children from abuse or neglect."

It does not say that there must be a written statement of procedures.

CR2.1 says "Childminders must keep and implement a written statement of procedures to be followed for the protection of children, intended to safeguard the children being cared for from abuse or neglect."

CR7.1 says "Childminders must have a written statement of procedures to be followed in relation to complaints which relate to the requirements of the Childcare Register and which a parent makes in writing or by email."

So either the Home Childcarer in this case was actually a Childminder... or the inspector got it wrong in my view... as CR2.1 and CR7.1 I feel do not apply to a nanny.

MrAnchovy wrote: Confusion is the order of the day where these regulations and their implementation is concerned.

I agree with that MrAnchovy... even Ofsted inspectors may be confused.

Over 1000 may sound a lot but it probably isn't as I'm not sure of the figure for how many registered Home Childcarers there are currently in England

I'll bet it's more than 10,000. Home childcarers by definition are not childminders.

According to a quick search of the Ofsted website I have done, 1027 inspection reports for Home Childcarers were uploaded to the Ofsted Website between 10-Feb-2011 and 10-Feb-2012. Link to search results (not sure if that link will work, give it a try. If not you will need to complete the search from manually).

Over 1000 may sound a lot but it probably isn't as I'm not sure of the figure for how many registered Home Childcarers there are currently in England. Also it's a provider type which includes people who are Not nannies. So whilst most may be nannies, it is hard to be sure what percentage are nannies vs other types of Home Childcarer (such as over 8's childminder).

Yes the Level 3 Diploma (as well as the Level 2 Certificate) is CCS compliant.

Many people don't realise that CYPOP5 is a 5 credit optional module within the 65 credit Level 3 Diploma.

The NVQ3 and Diploma requirements have always been different, but I can now see that CACHE have changed the requirements for the Level 2 Certificate so that it can be completed by "direct observation within the workplace, a portfolio of evidence, written assignments or a task set by CACHE".

So in theory this would be possible: does anyone know of anyone that actually provides training and assessment for for the CACHE Level 2 Certificate other than full time with a nursery placement?

To clarify by paperwork I meant FA, insurance etc not observations and learning journeys.

And nannies can be assessed in the workplace - at least one on here did an NVQ3 as a nanny and the DCYPW has workplace assessment but can be done by nannies. I think that is also common core compliant (although if it isn't I wouldn't be surprised!).

I think that has broken my record for serial posting

[voluntary registration] involves needing a level 2+ childcare qualification

This is not true - in fact there is no longer any Level 2 childcare qualification suitable for a nanny. Training in the common core skills is the requirement.

she just had to be aware of the core skills, she's a mum of 4 so has experience which they accepted

I believe there was a time when Ofsted were accepting relevant experience as satisfying the common core skills requirement, however they are now quite clear (and the box to tick on the form states) that training in the CCS must have been received. This is somewhat confused by the fact that relevant courses are often called 'Common Core Skills Awareness' so it may appear that only an awareness of (not training in) the CCS is required. Confusion is the order of the day where these regulations and their implementation is concerned :(

Non-compliance is theoretically grounds for barring someone from the registers.

In practice, non-compliance with a training requirment would result in Ofsted serving a notice giving a period of time (usually 6 months) to comply. Only if this were ignored would the person be barred (but this bar can prevent you from ever becoming registered in any part of the register).