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Is my live-out nanny eating too much of my food?

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confusedperson · 23/11/2011 20:48

I just hired a live-out nanny for my two DC. Before hiring, she asked if she is allowed to eat our food. To be honest, I hadn't thought about it, so I said yes thinking that she will eat what is served for children (normal quality food which I would eat myself). I have a meal plan and I always half-prepare lunch and tea myself, she only needs to cook/serve.
To my surprise, I noticed that a lot more food is consumed than the provided lunch, tea and snacks. Like the almost the whole loaf of bread per day, third of packet of spreadable butter per day (surely 1 adult and 2 under 4 wouldn't eat that much?), 8 yogurts that I bought for one of my DC are gone in 3 days (usually he has 1 per day with us), a big yogurt that I bought for her is also gone, some days 3 eggs are gone (not on the menu), or half of jar of peanut butter in 2 days. I don't think she gives all that to children (cos it's not on the menu), so must be eating her self. She is a young slim girl but still... I like her otherwise, children like her too, but I feel like she is going to make me go bankrupt. It is only been 3 weeks with her, and I am still watching, but I feel it's too much. I don't want to start counting what she eats, and I don't want to demotivate her, but I think is abnormous. I just did shopping last Sunday.. .for days on, the fridge is completely empty, and still weekdays to go.
What would you do?

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headfairy · 10/01/2012 22:28

confused she's youngish - week compared to me Grin, she's 30.

I do sometimes do something similar to LadyHarriet, and casually comment on how quickly such and such has gone. For us for a while it was apple juice, we used to get through 6 litres a week. I've always asked her not to give too much juice to the kids because of the teeth thing, and to be honest I think she'd kind of forgotten and was giving them pints of the stuff every day rather than drinking it herself, but I guess it amounts to the same thing though.

We have started hiding things we want to save for a specific thing, or I do sometimes specifically say "please could you leave the xyz for something I'm making at the weekend" but the chocolate thing caught me out. I didn't expect her to tuck in to it quite so enthusiastically!

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 10/01/2012 16:23

When our au pair was doing things like saying: Can I eat this yoghurt? Which I disvoered meant THE ENTIRE PINT POT in one sitting rather than a portion, I started just saying: "Great news, there's some berries and yoghurt in the fridge. Please make sure to help yourself to HALF" that worked fine. Seriously, I was worried about it before hand but it has been okay in the end.

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 10/01/2012 16:20

OP: By asking her regularly if there is anythng you can buy for her, I think it must appear to her that you are fine with everything she is eating.

It's impossible to say whether she is taking it home or just a very faddish eater who doesn't put on the pounds.

If it really is 15 pieces of fruit, I would say something to her about it. In my preferred passive aggressive way, I would probably go: "I was packing my lunch and I noticed that there wasn't any fruit left at all, the bowl was full yesterday. THat seems like a lot of fruit for the children to eat, can you please make sure that they limit it to a couple of pieces a day."

Same goes for the other stuff.

She will get the message.

I know 8 months isn't that long but if you aren't exaggerating at all, I think it is nonetheless a long time to feel cross about something too.

Nagoo · 10/01/2012 15:04

I think you need to mention it. She must be taking it home. She must.

confusedperson · 10/01/2012 14:41

headfairy that?s a lot!
My nanny is also size 8! Is yours young nanny? People here seem to notice that young people eat more!

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confusedperson · 10/01/2012 14:39

The crowd is demanding an update, and here I am!
I have not confronted my nanny yet. Tried to work out in different ways, but no success so far. I told her many times ?please tell me what you like eating and I will get for you? (so it would be defined amount of snacks for her for, let?s say, for a week). She always says ?I am fine I don?t need anything?. I still count her in when I buy yogurts or things.
Admittedly I started buying less snacks, since our food bill was going out of the roof. She remains funny in her eating, though. The ?top? food nowadays is fruit. I usually get a load off high street, fill up the bowl on Saturday, and for our family it used to last for a week. With her, it is almost empty after one day, and always gone by the end of a second day. Is she having 15 pieces of fruit a day?? In this case, the problem is not even fruit cost (£5-6 per load) but no sense of moderation or respect to an employer. Even if allowed to eat I would not pig out in my employer?s house.
She does not have playdates or visitors. My older DS would have told me. She is new in the area and does not know anyone.
The children seem happy and the addition to food bill, if it?s up to £100/month, is manageable, so I am avoiding any unnecessary confrontation or embarrassment (for her), but I grit my teeth at disappointment at someone seemingly taking advantage on me.
It?s only 8 months to go until my older DS starts school, hoping to use afterschool club and nursery, and hoping to never use a nanny again.

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headfairy · 09/01/2012 14:46

OP I remember this thread when you started it and I always think about it when I baulk at how much my nanny eats at our house. She starts work at 9am (she lives an 8 min walk away) and she always has 2 boiled eggs with toast and her dd has cereal while I take ds to school Hmm....

I would never begrudge her food at lunchtime of course, I'm a little Hmm about the breakfasts to be honest though. And her snacking is amazing.. before Christmas I bought a 400g bar of white chocolate to make some christmas presents. My own fault really I should have told her I needed it, but I was more stunned that she managed to eat the whole lot in 2 days. I asked ds and he said they had a couple of pieces (I know she's very good about restricting the amount of sugary stuff the kids have) each day. She has eaten a whole litre tub of cubes of fudge I made before Christmas - she's been back at work 3 days since the break Shock We get through five or six packets of biscuits a week and she only works 3 days.

Actually reading that back, what I'm more stunned about is how she's managed to stay a size 8. She's tiny Envy

Gigondas · 09/01/2012 14:36

It is usual to feed a nanny for reasons explained earlier on thread . But usually it's only snacks (bread ,ham/cheese, fruit ,yoghurt , biscuits ) so doesn't break the bank as its no more than parents would eat If at home. Neither of my nannies have eaten breakfast at work but I wouldnt have an issue with them having toast/ cereal.

thebody · 09/01/2012 14:30

i think shes taking your food home with her and stuffing herself during the day!!
the comment of 'am i allowed to eat your food?' is a bit strange I think.

why are you feeding her anyway? as IGGLY says why would an employer feed an employee, sure a cuppa and a biscit or soup, roll or sandwich with the kids i suppose but why more, isnt it normal to bring own food to work.

she doesnt live with you so cant understand why you would feed her?

Gigondas · 09/01/2012 14:25

Where is the op? Have we had an update

PenguindreamsofDraco · 09/01/2012 14:21

How old is your nanny? I ask because the thing that leapt to my mind was, could she be bulimic? I was when I was a teenager (fortunately 20+ years ago!) and yoghurts, creme fraiche, scoops of peanut butter etc just scream that to me.

Obviously I could be completely off track and she's just a gannet, but might be worth thinking about.

Oneofthechildlessones · 07/01/2012 12:27

I agree that the obvious answer is that she is having people over for lunch or snack - as I often do. I nanny for 1 child but if our nanny friend comes over lunch needs to stretch to 2 adults and 3 children.

Nagoo · 07/01/2012 10:47

Is it not possible that these people are having friends over to help them eat?

EssentialFattyAcid · 07/01/2012 10:36

I would get her to help you with your shopping list/ meal plan to increase understanding from both parties - from you as to what she wants to eat and from her as to how much it costs and that the cost makes a difference to you.

JustHecate · 07/01/2012 10:27

That seems like a massive amount of food. Could she possibly have an eating disorder?

nannyjaydep · 07/01/2012 10:22

I,am a nanny of 14 years and it's seems to me that your nanny is having a few too many playdates.

However what I think is more important is that she is a good nanny and that she cares for your children, not what she eats.if it is that much of a problem have you thought about doing less shopping so it's not there to eat. Or change your day when you buy food like a Friday.

If my boss came up to me and asked me about how much I am eating then I would be very hurt and dishearten as I believe there are many more things that are important when looking after the most precious thing in there life. I would then go on to think if she pulling me on this ( food ) what else is she she going to pull me on.

If it's really bothering you when having a talk you should around a month just say I think you might be having too many playdates as all the food is going at a fast rate and we can not afford it and then she should get the hint.

Good luck in what ever you do.

Fishpond · 03/01/2012 19:07

During my time as a nanny, I actually felt more awkward when living in about making sure I did not eat too much food! I had wildly different tastes than my English host family (I was 18 and had never been outside the US) so would buy different things out of my own pocket money.

As I gained more experience and went to live-out, I was always out of the house at least 12 hrs with commute. Breakfast was either non existent, a quick muffin if I was due to be early so stopped in a cafe, or at a push a piece of toast with kids. Normally morning rush is so busy with nursery / school runs / getting dressed / etc I just didn't have time for breakfast.

Lunch I usually either ate part of what kids were having or a sandwich if I didn't like what they were eating Grin I'd say about 50% of the time I would eat family bread and sandwich fillings and the other half
I'd go to Tesco in the morning while out with baby and get a pre packed sandwich plus a smoothie, etc. Out of my own money of course since I simply didn't fancy kids food.

The biggest disappearance for us was always playdates - 3-4 kids plus 2 adults would polish off a shepherds pie, sausage casserole, pizza, bolognaise, etc.

So OP have you spoken to nanny?

Oneofthechildlessones · 03/01/2012 17:52

In my current job I can pop out to grab lunch Juney but in 2 of my previous jobs I wouldn't have been able to just nip into Tesco's to pick something up due to logistics, the children etc etc. but then as other nannies I have said my boss expects me to eat - and big portions (if her cooking is anything to go by) Grin

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights · 03/01/2012 17:47

Maybe she brought some nacho chips with her and used it as a dip and some on her wrap?

juneybean · 03/01/2012 17:38

I think it's a bit daft to say nanny's can't pop out, that's one of the good things about the job, is that you're not tied to an office, you can do as you please!

I too provide my own lunch and always have but I'm sure my bosses wouldn't be aggrieved to find out I've pinched slices of bread here and there.

confusedperson · 03/01/2012 09:16

Xmasbaby11 this "quite cheap every day food" added to my food bills from ~£300-350/month to £500/month for the months when nanny is here. And that is to compare when my DH used to stay and eat at home with the children (a man as opposed to a young woman). Now DH and both work full-time, and we barely eat at home on weekdays (i am on diet and DH buys and cooks for himself). I use a nutritious weekly meal plan for the children (but nothing too fancy), so don't really get where all the food goes!
Few days ago my nanny looked after my 1yo DC2 for 4.5 hours (a shortened day and DC1 was out with me) and after that I noticed that out of 600ml creme fraiche, half of it was gone. I know clearly it has gone, nobody else had. I had prepared wraps for lunch and soup (she can have anything she wants), the wraps were eaten and soup not touched. Still, it is difficult to understand if she could eat 300ml of creme fraiche at once. I probably still refuse to believe that she could carry it home...

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Xmasbaby11 · 02/01/2012 23:32

It does sound like quite a lot of food, but it's quite cheap everyday food so i'm surprised it's such an issue. As many posters say, long hours and being active may mean she eats more than you imagine. It wouldn't occur to me she was taking advantage as you're only talking about bread, yoghurt etc.

Maybe discuss with her what food she normally gets through over a week, to help you with the food shopping so you don't run out every couple of days. If she claims to eat much less than what you've noticed disappearing, comment on the discrepancy by voicing your concern that the DC are overeating.

Caramellatteandchocolate · 28/12/2011 13:39

Can I just say communication and honesty is the key to succes when having a nanny! Otherwise issues grow and get out of hand.

Try to sit down and have a chat about everything over the last few weeks, slip it into conversation, I would try to avoid sounding like you are checking up on her or talking to her like one of your children, you are both adults and should have mutual respect and be able to chat openly with each other.
Good luck

callaird · 27/12/2011 18:57

But I have seperate accommodation, a two minute walk from the house, I have a fully fitted kitchen (with all mod cons, including a dishwasher!)

I start work at 6:15 and finish at 7pm, I go to bed around 10pm and if I cooked for myself I wouldn't eat until 8, this isn't good for me! I need to eat about 5:30, then I get to go to the gym/swim/meet friends after work.

When I did have a live-out job, I worked 8-6 but had a 45 minute commute, always left home for work early and usually left late so by the time I had finished, I was still out of the house for 12 hours.

But it has never been (brought up as) a problem for any of my employers. And to be honest I never even thought about it with any of my jobs!

I do not take the pi$$, I eat what is in the house, if I fancy anything different I buy it myself. I would not expect my employer to pay for something that they didn't have in. Crisps/chocolate/steak/caviar!!! I would never finish something in the kitchen if I thought my boss or the kids would want it and I don't (think I) eat more than an average amount.

LadyHarrietDeSpook · 27/12/2011 14:28

I don't think being a nanny is an easy job at all. AND ALSO - in terms of meals a live in nanny is for me quite different than a live out nanny. When else would you prepare your meals? It was the live out thing I wondered about from the point of view of - lots of people have to get to jobs early, why would a nanny's role be different in terms of having to prepare food. For a live in role it is conventional to eat with the children for most if not all meals I would think.