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Need a night nanny

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Alibabaandthe80nappies · 14/11/2011 12:30

How do a go about finding a night nanny? I need someone who can do a few overnights in the next 3 weeks so that DH and I can get some sleep - we are on our knees with sleep deprivation.

DS1 is 3 and sleeps fine, but DS2 is coming up to 8 months and does not sleep well at all! Ideally I want someone who will bring him to me when he needs a feed and then settle him back to sleep because that is the bit that is killing us.

Is this even possible?

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vickismith · 30/12/2011 20:48

wow I cant believe some of the things I am reading!! I am a maternity nurse and actively encourage mums to breastfed if they want to but of course also support mothers who bottle fed and I have never known a 8 month old to still need a feed how ever big they are!!!
I am looking after 8 month old breastfeed fully on solids twins now and they are sleeping from 7am to 7pm.
There is no right or wrong with the advice given on here as everyone has their own way and style BUT my style would absolutely no way be to feed a 8 month old baby in the night!! Most of my baby's sleep from 10:30pm to 7am by around 6 - 8 weeks some occasionally take a little longer.
Its like a jigsaw puzzle you have to fit all the pieces together for it to work. If you don't have the day right the night wont be right
Also I have my own way of doing things but I am more than happy to adapt my approach to how the mum wants but I am not sure if I could stomach feeding a 8 month old in the night!!!
Anyway just wanted to give my opinion!!
Peace and love.

TheRhubarb · 16/11/2011 09:12

Can I just explain that calling Ali an ungrateful cow was indeed out of order and I had no idea that her abrupt post to me was because of the shitty time she is having of it or that she did not want advice. I thought she was just having a go at people who were taking the time to post advice.

When I realised the full story I apologised. Ali accepted that graciously. I didn't think I deserved to be subject to other little digs telling me how out of order I was. And the contacting me personally is preferable to making public digs at me. That is all.

Hope that's cleared up.

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/11/2011 00:01

its fine - the regulars on here know not much offends me :)

ThatScrotumCat · 15/11/2011 23:42

Ahem .. bli-ush was supposed to be Blush

ThatScrotumCat · 15/11/2011 23:41

Blondes, my last post may have come across as a dig at you (wrt CC). It absolutely wasnt, it had taken me so long to write as I was feeding DD, your reply to the OPs last post was far quicker than mine & I hadn`t seen it [bli-ush]

Ali - My only other suggestion is to try swaddling him as soon as hes fed. I know it might seem strange to swaddle an 8 month old but sometimes it works & they drop off after a quick rock. Ive recently started doing this with DD using a flat sheet folded in half (making a triangle). It really seems to soothe & settle her. It`s worth a try at least.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/11/2011 23:14

no its fine - not abrupt to me :) - i was curious thats all - you do what YOU are happy with

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 15/11/2011 23:07

Blondes I think he is too little to wean. When we nightweaned DS1, he was around 18 months and it took 2 nights because he was ready - he only cried for an hour in total across both nights, and DH held him the whole time.
I'm sure that DS2 could be nightweaned with 2 weeks of screaming, but I'm not prepared to put him through that.
I'm sorry if I come over a little abruptly, it is something I feel very strongly about.

ThatScrotumCat (fab name Grin) we probably co-sleep for about half the night at the moment, because I feed him lying down and we fall back asleep. The difficulties come when we put him back in his cot, he often wakes up a little and then just won't settle down without lots of cuddles and rocking etc.
DS1 had a dummy and used to be able to settle himself to sleep if he had his dummy. We have tried repeatedly to get DS2 to take one, but he won't have it.

Right I am off to bed.

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ThatScrotumCat · 15/11/2011 22:33

I am a little late to this, glad that you`re feeling a bit better Ali & managed to get a lie-in.

Please ignore the comments suggesting your eight month old baby should be night-weaned by now. Absolute tosh. Many breastfed babies still need a night feed at that age, enforcing a daytime sleep routine/own room/water wont necessarily change that. Hes also too tiny for any form of controlled-crying, he doesnt know how to manipulate & if anything he would learn that theres no point crying as no-one will come to him Sad

I know this isn`t an answer to your original question but have you considered co-sleeping? He could latch on without you physically having to get up. Being so close to you might be the comfort he needs & may actually encourage his to night-wean himself.

By the way I am a qualified maternity nurse/nanny with almost 20 years experience, I stopped maternity nursing as my approach became more baby-led. I BF my 2.5 year old until he was almost two & my 5 month old is currently EBF (& Im on ML). You dont need to steer clear of agencies, you just need to be clear about what you need. Perhaps someone who is newly qualified, not so set in their ways & willing to listen to what you need.

Hope it works out.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/11/2011 22:25

can i ask ali, why you dont want to wean off night feeds?

i know you say you have tried everything and that ds screams for hours etc but it takes time - tbh about 2 weeks of hell for cc/weaning off night feeds/cold turkey etc

so yes dh and you may feel totally drained those 2 weeks but things WILL improve

there hasnt been a baby that i havnt re trained yet and within 2 weeks

just curious, thats all - not a dig or anything x

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 15/11/2011 21:15

My very own bunfight thread Grin

DS2 has actually napped properly today, and now he's down to sleep and DH and I will be following shortly!
I had a lie in this morning, and DH had a nap this afternoon so we're feeling a bit more with it. Hurrah for DH working from home! :)

I've got in touch with a couple of nannies locally who I'm hoping to speak to in more depth in the next couple of days. I think we are going to steer clear of agencies, partly because the registrations fees are very high when we only want someone for a couple of nights, but also they seem to view it as a problem that needs fixing, which isn't quite how DH and I see it.

Thanks for your help everyone - and please people stop leaping on Rhubarb.

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redglow · 15/11/2011 20:59

I for one did not think you were talking rubbish RhubarbO, Just thought calling somebody an ungrateful cow was really harsh.

eastnorth · 15/11/2011 20:29

I only meant this thread I have never come across you on another thread, should I have said posts, sorry my mistake. Rather school playground stuff suggesting I contact you personally.

TheRhubarb · 15/11/2011 20:22

Ah who gives a toss what you think eastnorth, some people obviously just like to have a go. Ali has forgiven my mistake and that is all that matters. I don't spend my life on Mumsnet. I try to help where I can, I give opinions (nothing wrong with that) and I try not to upset or insult, if I did MNHQ would delete my comments I am sure, but they don't tend to. If you have a problem with me then I suggest you contact me personally to sort it out.

I'm off to read dd a bedtime story. Let us know how you get on Ali. You sound tired and fed up and I wish you all the best as I can remember that feeling very well.

TheRhubarb · 15/11/2011 20:20

You're following me? Bringing in other threads onto this one? Why?

I made a mistake on this thread, I apologised. What is your point?

eastnorth · 15/11/2011 20:09

Wow rhubarb look back at your threads and see how bolshy you come across.
People are giving their opinions on your comments same as what you did.

I think other people got their point over a lot nicer than you.

sailorsgal · 15/11/2011 19:24

Hi Ali, Depending whereabout you are in hants you are. I would be happy to help. Have lots of experience as a maternity nurse and have a child of my own. DH is home on leave so am able to travel.

I would try night nannies, eden or howabout family match in Winchester.

Hope you get some sleep soon.

cupcakecastles · 15/11/2011 13:35

What area are you in Ali?

TheRhubarb · 15/11/2011 10:42

Sorry, hate to come back on and this is nothing to do with you Ali. But which part of sorry do you lot not get?

I apologised - twice. I said I did not know this thread was NOT for advice, I just saw it in active convos.

Thanks for telling me that I know nothing about breastfeeding. You know, I'm a mother too and I had eaten humble pie already. How nasty of you to rub it in with your unnecessary comments directed towards me.

Some qualified night nurses have already said on this thread that weaning might be a good idea, so I'm not talking complete bullshit. However thanks for your snide remarks after I had apologised. You could have just carried on with the thread and given the OP the information that she wanted, but instead you thought you'd have a go as well.

That's to zimm, redglow and Taptap.

Sorry for the hijack Ali, I just couldn't let that stand without challenging it. Hope you've found someone who can help.

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 14/11/2011 21:21

redglow I will PM you location :)

apple - DH can often settle him, but it takes time and doing it 3-4 times a night isn't feasible when DH is working fulltime in quite a senior job. He needs his wits about him! He does do it, but a few bad nights on the trot and he is exhausted just like me.

I nightweaned DS1 at 18 months, fed him until he was 2, and I wouldn't consider nightweaning DS2 until he is at least a year old. I really do think he is hungry - DH can settle him usually until about 3am at which point it really is hunger. He is a big baby - about 26lbs and almost walking, he is never still and must use the most incredible amount of energy.

Thanks for all the links (and the sympathy), I've had a look and I'm planning to get in touch with some of them tomorrow

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appleballcatdog · 14/11/2011 20:47

Hi Ali, just wanted to ask if your dp is on board with settling your ds back to sleep? Out of interest do you think your ds will settle for a night nanny if he wont for your dh? Only asking as my dd was the same for dp and she was bfing all night until about 6 weeks ago. (she is 13m now) We tried a softly softly approach to night weaning and DID offer water first but if she refused it was no biggie!
Dd wouldnt settle at all without being fed to sleep so we started trying to crack the bedtime feed first with dp settling her at bedtime after being fed and then if she woke dp would try tosettle her but if it didnt work then I would feed her then give her back to dp to settle and after a while she associated us both with sleep and wasnt waking to look for a feed. She still co-sleeps after about 3am. Like you I dont agree with cc and tbh 8 months is still quite small, its entirely possible that he is hungry and bfing is much more than just food anyway! Have you read the no cry sleep solution by elizabeth pantley (sp?)? I know its not really what you were asking for but just thought I would share my experience as I was in a similar situation to you just a few weeks ago hope everything gets a little better for you soon! Smile

CountBapula · 14/11/2011 20:19

Just to say Ali I'm still giving DS a night feed if he needs one, and he's 14 months old. He was a terrible sleeper but got better on his own. He now sleeps through four or five nights a week and the other nights he only wakes once and I feed him right back to sleep. I figure he'll drop those feeds when he's ready, just like he did the others.

We tried night weaning when he was seven months old and he still woke up every 2-3 hours. It made sod-all difference to how well he slept.

Just wanted to post in case it gave you some light at the end of the tunnel. Hope you get some sleep soon.

Siegfried · 14/11/2011 20:05

I used nightnannies.

redglow · 14/11/2011 19:32

Where abouts in hants are you?

redglow · 14/11/2011 19:30

Alibaba you could just ring up your lacal nanny agency. I have got jobs like this eventhough I am not a proper night nanny but done lots of overnight work. Its not easy and I was still breastfeeding my DC long after 8 months in the night. People can give you all the advice in the world but every child is different and you know your child.

You did not nearly need advice that you did not ask for.

zimm · 14/11/2011 19:16

Should read 'should not be used'. Sorry.