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diggingintheribs · 10/05/2011 18:45

I have a live out nanny starting in a few weeks and I want to make sure I do everything right! I have never had a nanny before so unsure

She is really lovely but so much so I'm not sure she'll tell me if there is a problem iyswim

The key things I don't know about are this;

  1. Kitty for activities - what is the norm? It would just be for toddler groups, lunches if they are out etc. Is it ok to ask for receipts or a note of what it was used for?

  2. Travel - she will be using the bus - how do I handle this? Do I offer to pay for her bus pass (she's going to work part time)?

  3. Day diary - is it reasonable to ask her to note down what DD has done, eaten, how much she has slept, and , ahem, bowel movements?

  4. I am happy for her to use our landline but how does it work with mobile phones?

  5. Lunch - what food do I get in for lunch? What do I do about food (she'll be here for all 3 meals)

  6. Is there anything else I should be thinking about? Salary and tax is all sorted.

Thanks

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diggingintheribs · 12/05/2011 09:18

Ok! I guess I just tell them what I've given her and they work it out anyway.

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MilkNoSugarPlease · 12/05/2011 08:54

Payroll payroll payroll!!!

diggingintheribs · 12/05/2011 08:29

After a day with the kids I wish I could go home somewhere else!!!

So I have her on payroll etc. Can I pay the babysitting cash in hand or do I need to put it through payroll. I'm surprised how everyone I know with a nanny doesn't do their payroll (which I don't agree with) which means no one can answer any of my questions!

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Samedi · 11/05/2011 23:08

diggingintheribs- I don't do so many non-childcare related chores in my current position, though I have offered. I have no problem picking up drycleaning on the way home from school run, or dropping a parcel off at postoffice if needed. I've offered. However I have in the past been taken advantage of- first its 'please could you... oh thanks so much' then it becomes assumed that I'll do it, which can be annoying if it interfears with the routine!

Regarding babysitting, I'm live-out and my contract says they pay £10 per hour for babysitting outside of contracted hours. Which is good to know so I don't have to ask or assume they will add to my wages. I hate having to ask for money, even if I know its owed me!

MilkNoSugarPlease · 11/05/2011 22:55

I won't lie, Love those kids to bits, but sometimes, yes, the thought of babysitting is horrendous but it's the late night as opposed to the kids iygwim

If she doesn't want to, she'll say no but tbh staying on a couple more hours at work when the kids are in bed with the tv, is pretty good!

diggingintheribs · 11/05/2011 22:49

I thought maybe after 10 hours with the kids the thought of babysitting would be horrendous!!

I would rather have her babysit as the kids know her (eg DS is going through a falling out of bed phase and a familiar face is so much more comforting!)

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MilkNoSugarPlease · 11/05/2011 22:33

Full time, but can work anything between 36 and 70hours pw depending on various things!

nannynick · 11/05/2011 22:29

No babysitting in a live-out nanny contract. However I would have thought your nanny would be the first person you would ask if you needed a babysitter and they would probably say yes to requests, if it fits with their plans for that evening, especially if it's a work day evening as they could just stay after their usual finish time.

diggingintheribs · 11/05/2011 22:26

That makes sense. Do you work fulltime or part time? Sounds hard to manage varying hours!

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MilkNoSugarPlease · 11/05/2011 22:19

I do evening babysitting, I don't have it in my contract as my hours vary so much...I work a set amount per month (Used to be week) then I get £9ph for any work after that

I get first refusal on babysitting if they just want to go out rather then are working late (iygwim)
:)

diggingintheribs · 11/05/2011 22:15

That's ok!

Another quick question if you don't mind!

There is no evening babysitting in the contract. Do you do evening babysitting? Or would you rather not?

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MilkNoSugarPlease · 11/05/2011 22:06

Please excuse typing! I typed on the aforementioned phone!

diggingintheribs · 11/05/2011 22:00

Thanks!

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MilkNoSugarPlease · 10/05/2011 22:52

I'm sure this will sound odd, depending in the phone she has I'd consider a cheap small cameras that can be slung ub the nappy bag on any day trips out

I have a great camera on ky phone bit not so fab battery life, having a camera means u can take loads of snaps without worrying about being contactable in an emergency

I do use ny phone for in the house or local places mind

diggingintheribs · 10/05/2011 21:57

i'll find out but I can see it makes sense!

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nannynick · 10/05/2011 21:48

No. It's something else to lug about and to lose. Most mobile phones have a camera built in... does hers? You don't want high quality image... you want a quick snap as and when to "capture the moment" (that's probably trademarked by one of the photo companies!)

diggingintheribs · 10/05/2011 21:45

So you don't think i should provide a camera (not so keen as this is number 3 in 2 years as I keep dropping them!)? Am happy to get her an SD card or something. Will chat to her about it

Thanks for the help. Feel very nervous about it and I want her to be happy!

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nannynick · 10/05/2011 21:36

Yes, good idea to track first few weeks to get a typical kitty amount.

Mobile phones often have camera's these days, ideal for taking quick pics whilst out and about. They can then be emailed or uploaded to secure image sharing site.

No, shouldn't need to phone you during the day. The odd text message however during the first few weeks can be of reassurance to you - such as "x has had 6oz bottle and is now napping."

eurycantha · 10/05/2011 21:28

I agree with the camera,I take a camera everywhere when we are out,take photos ,such as when the girls started football club this week, and when they dressed up for the royal wedding ,I took photos of how I did their hairIt was a bit way out] which may seem a little thing but their parents obviously interested in anything different we do.I give them either copies of photos ,although recently I gave them my camera and they downloaded all the pics of their children.

diggingintheribs · 10/05/2011 21:11

Thanks nannynick

Maybe I will just ask her to tell me what she's spent in the first few weeks so I can get an idea of how much she will need.

I hadn't thought of the camera - I would love her to take photos of DD as she is at that age where she will be doing so much new stuff!

I guess she shouldn't really be phoning me much

Intend to have a day with DS to go to museums etc as he starts school in September. He is a suspicious soul so I want to make sure he has really bonded with her before I go back to work.

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nannynick · 10/05/2011 20:58
  1. Kitty for activities - I like having a set budget with which I can do I what I like. £5 per day seems to work well - it's enough for toddler group, will usually cover going swimming, will cover misc things like icecream.
    Toddler groups don't give receipts usually. It can also be hard to get a receipt from the icecream van. Consider why it is that you are wanting receipts - is it a trust thing? Put trust in your nanny to spend the money wisely, to save up money for more expensive things. I work 4 days a week, get £20 to cover activities and misc expenses. Next week I get another £20 and so it goes on. If we overspend one week, we can then underspend the next. I got this kitty amount when Child1 was a pre-schooler and Child2 was a baby. Now I get the same amount with Child1 at school, Child2 pre-schooler, Child3 baby. In that situation amount could be increased for school holiday times, given that Child1 is no longer Free entry for many places.

  2. Travel - I don't know about bus passes. The potential issue I see is that you could end up paying for her travel to/from work. That would be a taxable benefit I believe (check with your payroll provider or an accountant). Is there an electronic version of the bus pass which enables you to see itemised journeys and thus factor in a cost allocation? (as I said, know nothing about bus passes but with technology these days, I do wonder what is possible.) In my view you need to pay for work travel but not travel to/from work.

  3. Day diary - personally I don't bother with this these days. Maybe I should but my boss seems relaxed about it now that I've been there several years. You can certainly ask, however it's bit like diaries at nurseries - you never really know how accurate it is. I found sending digital photos helped to reassure parents that we are actually doing things, going places.

  4. Why would she want to use your mobile phone? Probably has her own mobile. You pay to call her mobile, as that's the way phones work - the caller pays. If you mean her sending you texts, calling you from her mobile, then that's part of the job... though could factor something into the daily/weekly kitty.

  5. Lunch - nanny eats with the children. Nanny eats the same as the children usually, except for things like baby porridge! Ask nanny to suggest things for the shopping list, also to let you know when they spot things are running out. Presume nanny is cooking the meals.

Overlapping with a parent at home is fine. You can take that opportunity to have YOU time (or should that be ME time) to get things done just for you. Then you could spend time with 1 particular child - especially useful to help bonding with an older child who my be feeling pushed out by baby.

Why would nanny not want to eat at kids dinner time (tea time)? I do it on occasion, not always but often if there is enough food for all of us. If nanny is eating later themselves back home they may well only have a small amount at tea time, just to help encourage the children to eat and gives a time when they can talk. With baby, I find that she can need a feed around tea time, or a nap, often both. So can be fed at or near the dinner table, so we are still able to talk to the older children.

diggingintheribs · 10/05/2011 20:40

It would be nice if she ate with the kids as DS likes a good chat over dinner!

DS is a crafty one so I am definitely keeping an eye on him not playing us against each other!

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MilkNoSugarPlease · 10/05/2011 20:34

Makes perfect sense and would work fine, except sometimes accept that 1 dc may not want to go with the nanny and will cry and scream for you, but that's natural :)

And back the nanny up, I can't stress this enough! Any problems with discipline etc, tell her away from the kids! She needs your support and you both need to follow each others punishments etc

I often eat dinner with charges tbh....In the job I'm in now I already have to cook 3 different meals....I can't be bothered doing myself one at home

:)

diggingintheribs · 10/05/2011 20:25

Samedi - thanks for your reply

Do your bosses ask you to do non-chold related chores often?

I guess she will be having her dinner at home - no reason why she would want to eat at a kids dinner time!!

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diggingintheribs · 10/05/2011 20:21

Getting a nanny has been a bit of a struggle. i would describe myself as a hands on mum (DH uses the word helicopter!) and it just feels weird!

I have a lot more holiday than she does and I intend to use it so she will get a lot of extra days off.

Other worry is that we are going to overlap before I go back to work. I was planning on leaving her with DD (baby) one day and DS the other days. Does that make sense?

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