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can't believe nanny has just done this. Help before I self combust with rage.

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motherpeculiar · 26/10/2005 14:22

some of you may remember I had a few teething probs with new nanny a while back - we had a review and she seemed to have taken on board what I said and be getting better. We have been feeling quite happy with her in general.

However DH has just phoned from home - he is working from home today - it is my first day back in the office to tell me that nanny has just left the house with DD2 for a walk in the park, BUT LEFT DD1 AT HOME
Dh has now put her watching cbeebies while he tries to get on with work

wtf?????

She is contracted to look after both kids. Ok DH is at home and she mentioned this to him beforehand (but he thought she was joking, and just using this as a ploy to get DD1 to hurry and get ready) but this is outrageous.

Any ideas on an approach to take? I am tempted to call her mobile and find out what the hell she is thinking of but DH doesn't want any confrontation until we have DD2 safe and home.

DD1 can be slow to get ready to go out and difficult (she is three afterall) but surely nanny needs to find strategies for this rather than just leaving her behind in the house.

I have to admit, I am completely gobsmacked. If we had cover I think I would fire her today for gross misconduct.

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HappyMumof2 · 27/10/2005 09:14

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motherpeculiar · 27/10/2005 08:41

Hi Uwila, thanks for asking

trying to work but very distracted. did go to nannyjob last night and the reaction there varied from mild surprise at nanny's actions to full blown shock and get rid of her messages (no volunteer replacements yet tho' )

Dh and I have agreed we need to let her go, the question is when? I don't think I'd feel wholly justified just telling her never to come back, yet we can't really afford (well, would prefer not to have to I suppose) to pay her off and pay for alternative childcare, so may see if she'll work out the notice period. If she gets shirty we'll take it from there I guess.

Ho Hum. It is very difficult.

DD1 also goes to a private nursery two days a week (days we don't have the nanny - I work p/t those days and look after DD2 the rest of the day) so we are going to check if they could take her an extra day, and maybe even consider putting DD2 in also. I had wanted DD2 to stay at home for longer but am not sure we are able for this nanny lark!

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uwila · 27/10/2005 08:29

And how are you today?

motherpeculiar · 27/10/2005 00:21

certainly feel like a proper mummy tonight pph [groan]

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princesspeahead · 27/10/2005 00:13

might be worth giving her a ring to see if she is still available, mp.

anyway I'm off to bed - hope you manage to resolve this! I had to sack a nanny once - we had her for 4 weeks, first two weeks we were on holiday and we spent the whole time running around after dd while she lay on a towel reading a book (and I was 7.5mths pregnant). Then when we got home, about a week later I woke up at 4.30 to go to the loo to find her JUST coming home after a night out, pissed. She was meant to be on duty (sole charge, full time) at 7am!!!
Had an agonising 2 days discussing what to do with dh - finally heard that a nanny's sister (who I never met) was between jobs for 3 months. sat her down and fired her, with no notice (3 days to move out), paid her off because I didn't feel like the fight, and the new nanny started on the Monday. She was a fantastic godsend and it worked out brilliantly. Couldn't understand, looking back, why I hadn't sacked her after the holiday!!!!

You have to have at least one nanny=related disaster in life, otherwise you aren't a proper mummy

aloha · 27/10/2005 00:08

£8 is what she gets, so I suppose it is a similar rate.
She was just very jolly, kind, mad about children, has lots of plans for farms and music groups and even took both children to a little party last week (organised by another nanny), which ds loved (hard to say about dd, but she is apathologically social creature).
And she couldn't stop praising their intelligence, good looks, charm etc, which always makes you warm to a person, I find.

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princesspeahead · 27/10/2005 00:04

ooooh aloha she sounds good!

I think a loving fun personality (backed up with refs and some experience) is worth any number of qualifications, personally

motherpeculiar · 27/10/2005 00:04

congrats Aloha - hope it continues to work out for you.

Out of interest - is that £8 PLUS tax NI etc on top?

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princesspeahead · 27/10/2005 00:03

oh dear, I'm sorry! but glad it helped crystallise your feelings!
You could always phone a good agency and tell them you need some emergency cover for a couple of weeks until you sort someone out... it will cost you a bit but you should end up with someone nice and reliable on your doorstep on monday morning who can give you some breathing space to get back into your job and find someone permanent. try imperial nannies and tinies - I mention them because they are good and they also have big maternity sections and quite often maternity nurses are also nannies and like to fill in 2 or 3 weeks between jobs with emergency nanny care. And also then you won't worry about someone dropping the baby
also do CAT orangina (my sister!) - her nanny is wonderwoman and anyone related to her must be worth an interview...!

best of luck.

aloha · 27/10/2005 00:02

I don't want to speak to soon, but have just hired an unqualified but quite experienced woman of 24 to look after dd (8months) but owing to an inset day at nursery she looked after ds (four) as well last week (I also work at home) and she was so lovely with them both and she charges £8 an hour, which is the going rate and I'm in London. Ds told her he loved her!

motherpeculiar · 26/10/2005 23:57

pph - thanks! I am nearly crying at your summary of what nanny did to DD1 today (and I am not easily moved to tears!)

Thanks for sharing your experience - what you say about things not changing was my gut feeling, good to have it corroborated by an experienced nanny-haver.

Just need to work out a strategy for childcare before we have the chat. She is not due back until MOnday now so some time to think.

Sally - your childminder sounds great. You lucky thing

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princesspeahead · 26/10/2005 23:49

And three year olds are lovely and such fun! How DARE she ignore her, bore her, and then punish her for being ignored and bored? Your poor dd. There are any number of lovely, possibly less qualified, fun nannies out there who will do 50x more things with your dd than you could ever dream up, and be GREAT for her self-confidence, not the opposite!

Sorry again, really feel outraged on your and your dd's behalf

princesspeahead · 26/10/2005 23:46

motherpeculiar - I've had a lot of very good nannies over the last 8 years. I can promise you that if this nanny is favouring the baby over the 3 year old now, it will not improve and is not acceptable. I can promise you that if the nanny is not thinking up interesting and varied activities for the 3 year old now, it will not improve and is not acceptable. If the nanny does not know how to handle a bored 3 year old having a tantrum (and I'd have thought the perfect solution was to take her to the park and let off some steam, FFS), she will not improve and it is not acceptable. And if the nanny thinks that a 3 year old needs to be punished by being left on a step by herself, with her unaware father on the other side of a closed office door, while the nanny goes to the park with the baby, then she shouldn't be a nanny.

Sorry to be so unequivocal. I'd sit her down, tell her that she clearly is not up to the job, these x things have completely undermined your belief in her ability to cope, she herself has admitted that she is unable to cope, you are letting her go with immediate effect (give her to the weekend to move out if she is live in) and as a token of goodwill you are giving her one or two weeks payment.

If she wants to sue you for the rest she can try, but she probably won't be successful (document all of this and the previous incidents) and I expect she won't bother.

sallyscarystrawberry · 26/10/2005 23:46

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motherpeculiar · 26/10/2005 23:40

on the contrary Hoola - it is good to know that you think my rage was justified. Has gone off the boil a bit now (the rage) but incendiary (sp?) comments like yours are just the job as I need to keep my courage up to terminate her contract!!!

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hoolagirl · 26/10/2005 23:33

Sorry not being very constructive

hoolagirl · 26/10/2005 23:31

I just hate to think of kiddies getting treated like this, it really riles me up! I would have frogmarched her to the front door and helped her out with my foot up her arse!!
I know I sound extreme, but how must that child feel, being ignored and left behind.
And me that didnt like kids (then I had them)!

motherpeculiar · 26/10/2005 22:33

thanks caligula

that's what DH says - it just makes him so sad that DD1 is not being interacted with as she deserves to be. SHe is a livewire, and she responds really really well to fun, creative activities.

Thanks, that does help.

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Caligula · 26/10/2005 22:28

mp - when you feel awful about confronting her, just think of DD1 and how unfair it is that her nanny is doing this to her, and that will strengthen your resolve.

I had an au-pair who did this - totally ignored DS, found him a PITA, but adored DD and was brilliant with the house, I liked her, etc. But in the end, the fact that my little DS was suffering and being marginalised in his own home by his own carer whom he was trying to please and wanted some positive attention from, made it impossible for me to carry on feeling positive about her.

motherpeculiar · 26/10/2005 22:23

Happymumof2 - she has no formal quals but 5 years experience and great references. How, I do not know.

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Bozza · 26/10/2005 22:16

hoolagirl - I think it is a bit of a big leap to say that because she left DD on the step when DH was working at home (wrong I agree) that she would do it when no-one was at home. I would be extremely unhappy that my 3yo had spent 2 days without any trips out or any activities sorted out by the nanny. No wonder she is playing up, she must be bored.

motherpeculiar · 26/10/2005 22:13

Soapbox - I know you are right. I will repeat your message to myself as a mantra when I weaken.

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motherpeculiar · 26/10/2005 22:11

LARGE glass Orangina

will certainly CAT you, thanks

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soapbox · 26/10/2005 22:11

MP - you've given her the second chance once already!

Time to get tough - and I know how tricky that can be!