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Childminder with fake paperwork

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luzt · 25/09/2010 20:40

I am going back to work and we have been interviewing millions of nannies, babysitters, paying visits to nursery and etc, than we found this childminder on a certain childcare website and just reading her profile we felt like choosing her. First time we payed her a visit we were sure she was the one for us and we have been meeting and visiting her constantly to settle our 2 month old and getting t know her and her child better and we have no doubts that she can provide the childcare that we want even though she became a childminde recently and our child will be her first mindee (she is a former nursery teacher and babysitter). But there is one little thing...She is renting and her landlord refused to give her permission to childmind in the flat. Her child is starting school now and she does not want another job as she wants to take her of him. She is desperate to move out but got no money for deposit and firts month rent upfront so she faked a pemission letter from her landlord and will childmind whitout his permission until she got enough money to move out. She was honest about this first time I called her to enquire..So, what to do now...

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luzt · 25/09/2010 21:04

yes, nannynic she is registered and I have checked everything, no other documentation is fake only the lanlords permission and she was honest with me on the first time I ever spoke to her on the phone. she didnt want us to waste our time so she explained that when she realize the landlod wouldnt give permission she was half way through the procedures and she decided to move out but she need the money first. Once she has the money she will move to a place whose the private landlady is sister in law of her best friend and will give notice to her tenants (who rents separate rooms and share the facilities)and let the place to her and let her childmind from there.

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nannynick · 25/09/2010 21:02

MuddlePuddle what are you going on about?

If she's a nanny she can take children to her home without the required paperwork-as long as it isn't listed as her primary place of work (that could be your address).

If she's a nanny she can't take children back to her own home for more than 2 hours in a day. It's the usual 2-hour rule that applies (Childcare Act 2006).

nannynick · 25/09/2010 21:00

So she's got a CRB check, liability insurance and Ofsted registration certificate. So where is the problem? I'm just not spotting where the issue is - the landlord may not have granted permission, but how would that affect other things?

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luzt · 25/09/2010 20:58

What do you mean when you say that if she is a nanny she can take my baby to he home...I have never heard such a thing

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nannynick · 25/09/2010 20:58

I don't actually see how it is a problem at all, for the end user.

If the regulator (Ofsted in England) has registered the person as a childminder... then they will have inspected the property and carried out background checks on adults in that property. The childminders public liability insurance as far as I know would still be valid... it's just the buildings/contents insurance that would not be valid. If the building were to collapse, you would just sue the person... not really care too much about the onward chain of liability.

Have you seen a registration certificate? Have you been able to confirm with the regulator that the certificate is valid (such as by entering the URN on Ofsted's website).

MuddlePuddle, am I missing something... how would landlords refusal affect the insurance? Is there a smallprint clause somewhere?

MuddlePuddle86 · 25/09/2010 20:54

Yeah, can't she come to your house? There is a difference between hiring her as a childminder and hiring her as a nanny. If she's a nanny she can take children to her home without the required paperwork-as long as it isn't listed as her primary place of work (that could be your address). But if you're not too bothered about it, why get caught up in red tape? If it was my lo I don't think I'd be satisfied with forged paperwork, as it's a glimpse of their character...is your babies safety priority over convenience?

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luzt · 25/09/2010 20:51

she has got CRB, insurance and she is registered with ofsted

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luzt · 25/09/2010 20:49

Well as I said we have a 2 month baby and she has a 3.5 year old, she wants to do the school run and take the child to classes aswell and that is why she is a childminde now and that is why she is happy to look after such one child only specially being a young baby.Plus we need someone really flexible as we just know the time we requie for childcare every Friday for the following week...the days and hours will always change and from her profile we already could see that she would work around our requirements. Plus depending on our working shifts, she will collect or hand over our baby at underground station, as our house is not exactly close t hers but one of the sations in the line we use is.

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MuddlePuddle86 · 25/09/2010 20:45

If she doesn't have her permission, it probably throws EVERYTHING out of the window...insurance being the main one, and if your little one gets hurt, there won't be public liability insurance...it also means that she probably won't get a full criminal check in terms of registering her property as a child minding property, this also means the health and safety standards will be lacking...there has to be other child carers without putting your tot at risk?

mollymax · 25/09/2010 20:44

Is there any way she could come to your house and be a naany, If she is "perfect" for you in all other ways.
Would not be happy that she has forged a letter from landlord.