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nannies advice please on how best to stop my nanny's current bad habits?

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mrsshackleton · 04/09/2010 21:32

We've had a new nanny for five weeks, since the beginning of the school holidays. Everything's been basically OK, but I have various reservations about her. The main one is that my dds seem to like her but say that's because she is "always giving them treats" and "takes them to McDonalds"

I don't mind occasional treats and once or twice yearly trips to Mds and I said she could take them there once when she asked but today they tellling me they go almost every day with her. She is not good at cooking I've realised and I'm pretty sure she takes them to Mds for lunch as that's what she wants to eat and buys them an ice cream or whatever while they sit there.

I also get the impression from dds' recent behaviour that she's in the habit of doling out sweets and biscuits all day whenever they ask, as they've now started to whinge constantly about being hungry, obviously expecting a treat straight away.

Anyway, my question is how to tackle this with our nanny? I'm nervous because to her it's clearly fine to eat in Mds every day/stuff children with sweeties and I dont' want to be seen as criticising her lifestyle. How would all you lovely nannies out there suggest I word it? Thank you

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mrsshackleton · 05/09/2010 14:29

I agree, cooking issue is shocking. But she is four days a week, half days so the dds aren't exposed to her all the time - anyway, I will update you next week with how our chat went. As I say if trips to Mds continue then she's outta here

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Blondeshavemorefun · 05/09/2010 14:07

she had better be bloody good at other stuff if you are willing to over look the food/cooking issues

strix would not let this nanny continue Wink

im really alarmed that an adult can not cook simple meals, how hard is it to dry fry some mince, add chopped onions/carrots/celery and tin of toms, season and simmer and then boil some potatoes and = shepherds pie

mrsshackleton · 05/09/2010 13:46

Totally agree Blondes she blimmin' well should and claimed she could but doesn't/can't. But ime all nannies have strong and weak points and she's good at other stuff so I am prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt as long as trips to Mds stop when I categorically ask.

And NannyNick yes, I've already said she can help herself to anything we have for lunch and there's a wide selection. I think she just loves Mds

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leeloo1 · 05/09/2010 13:46

Not a great example to be setting your children about what meals adults enjoy. HmmEspecially if she is eating food and not allowing them any - it'll might become especially tempting to them.

I do feel if you're paying a lot of money to have a nanny then you'd expect to receive an 'above average' service -and your children sitting and watching the nanny stuff her face with bigmac and fries is not what I'd call above average. I'm a CM and (although I wouldn't usually choose to eat in McDs anyway) I would never, ever take my mindees anywhere like that - even if they were sleeping or to buy myself a meal to eat later, as I'd be embarrassed that I might be 'seen' setting such a poor example.

To me it would be a misconduct issue as she is meant to be entertaining/looking after your children to a high standard and she clearly isn't doing this!

Blondeshavemorefun · 05/09/2010 13:36

sorry mixed up rubys young nanny with op

but as she is an older lady and a grandmother then its almost worse - she SHOULD know how to cook healthy meals

starexpat, i have thought about that Grin i would be rolling in it, but why mn is here, the people are safe from me lol Wink

nannynick · 05/09/2010 13:34

It's all a bit strange really... she makes sandwiches for the DDs for picnics out... yet she ends up at MacD's (can't be many, if any MacD's in woodland, parks etc). So she must be making a concious decision to go to MacD's... even though she could make lunch for herself.

Is she perhaps concerned about using your food for her lunch? I presume you providing lunch is part of the deal... is that right?

She's in her 50's... surely she can cook a few things by now?

mrsshackleton · 05/09/2010 13:26

Oh sorry yes, forgot to answer that - as NN of amazing memory says she is in her fifties and a grandmother. Which makes me wonder what she fed her children all these years

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looneytune · 05/09/2010 13:24

Blondes - totally agree! I can't believe she'd eat her lunch there and let them watch, that seems cruel to me.

I LOVE crisps (wish I didn't!) but this is a healthy eating house in general and being a childminder, I can't be seen to be stuffing myself full of crisps in front of the children then not letting them have them. I therefore have to wait until they have naps or whatever and sneek a pack in or wait til they've gone home! Wink

nannynick · 05/09/2010 13:24

the nanny going to MacDs for lunch, may not be young. MrsS didn't answer that... I think the nanny may be quite mature and a mum herself.

StarExpat · 05/09/2010 13:09

Blondes you should be a consultant for nannies and families. Imagine how lucrative your business would be!

Well, if there were no MN where you can find the advice for free... Grin

Blondeshavemorefun · 05/09/2010 12:27

your nanny goes to maccy d's most/every day for her OWN LUNCH Shock

this has got to stop and you need to stop it now

it is not a case of your dc telling tales but surely any professional nanny knows not to do this, yes she may be young but even when i started nannying 19yrs ago at 18yrs old i knew not to go there every day and eat lunch Hmm

is she a qualified nanny? if so then she should have some basic food nutrition/skills from her course

rubys method is def micromanaging and would drive me insane but it works for her and her nanny

but any person should be able to cook simple meals like shepherds pie/lasgane/casserole/fish pie or meat and veg

mamatomany · 05/09/2010 12:10

You do need a good talk, otherwise it'll end as it did with mine, her taking them to her boyfriends house and all sorts.

mrsshackleton · 05/09/2010 12:03

I've told her to help herself to food for lunch but she doesn't ... Basically I think she loves eating junk. She does make sandwiches for the dds when they go out which has been most days during the holidays.

I agree, dragging dds into Mds because she wants to eat isn't good - the problem is bringing it up gently because I don't want it to look like the dds are telling tales on her because they're not, they're just telling me what goes on! Dd1 will be having lunch at school next term but dd2 is at nursery so I am going to have to clamp down hard on she must come home for lunch. Totally agree with good advice on it being a new term, so a new start and I will say I've been too lax over the holidays and want an end to it now.

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mamatomany · 05/09/2010 11:50

Do you not provide lunch at your house for her ?
We always said help yourself to stuff to make a sandwich or bring your own food and keep it in our fridge so there was no excuse for popping to macdonalds just because it's free,

surpriseme · 05/09/2010 11:42

So she is going there for her lunch and the kids just have to sit and wait for her while having an ice cream? I actually think thats really bad.She should leave her mcd trips to the wkend.Do you provide food that the nanny can eat at your house or does she have to provide her own?
I would actually just state that you would prefer that the kids werent in mcds on a regular basis and you dont mind once a mth or so as a treat but that you prefer them to either eat at home or in a cafe/restaurant that serves healthy food.Also say you dont mind the occassional treats i.e sweets/ice cream but they are just that-treats.They stop being a treat when they have them daily.Say that on a daily basis they should have fruit etc as a snack but you dont mind the very occassional treat-i.e ice cream on a warm day etc

karen2010 · 05/09/2010 10:27

remember to tell her that you like your kids to see a adult eating with them so they learn manners etc
so what she feeds the kids she eats as well

nannynick · 05/09/2010 10:23

We all probably get a bit lax over the summer holidays (the children I care for have certainly been having more icecream than would be usual). So as others are saying... it's a good time to implement a few changes.

It's back to the term-time routine as well, so much easier to arrange the routine such that children get a hot lunch at home a few times a week, perhaps a lunch out a couple of days a week.

nannynick · 05/09/2010 10:18

Is it the place they are going to, or that the treat is airy icecream. That icecream is probably close to 50% air - Technical details about the icecream liquid - so is probably less icecream than having one of those small tubs.
Mind you I think the small tubs produced by small local dairies may be better quality... though possibly more fattening (though children do need fat and calcium to grow).

Now it's getting colder, icecream won't be such an appeal... though perhaps you do need to decide if you want your children to be visiting MacDs or not. Some parents don't want their children going there ever... some will permit it on occasion... whereas others won't mind them going regularly. I expect you are in the occasional camp but your nanny is in the regular camp.

Why is nanny not having lunch at your home, or taking a picnic lunch for her and your children? Micromanaging meal plans may be needed for a while, so she gets to know what sort of food you want her to make for your children.

blueshoes · 05/09/2010 10:15

Since the summer is over, the children are going back to school, it is a good watershed to lay the ground rules for food. I go a bit lax on holidays re: treats but will try to claw back during term time. You can use that as a gentle reason to speak to her.

Are both dds in school? If so, then Iunch will no longer be an issue, I assume, since they will eat at school.

Agree with Dinghy she can always get a McDs on her way back. She should not expect to be able to eat at McDs everyday - she is at work!

rubyslippers · 05/09/2010 10:12

She is young and new to being a nanny

We will drop them in due course when she feels more confident and she can cook more!

She is getting better all the time but it was helpful for both of us

Dinghy · 05/09/2010 10:01

I would tell her that, as a family, you're going on a healthy eating drive and so McDonald's is banned, and you don't want her even taking the dds in there. If she's that desperate for a Mcburger she can stop for one on her way home.

mrsshackleton · 05/09/2010 09:56

Thanks everyone

We did discuss food at interview of course, and she made all the right noises but it's easy to make the right noises

They don't have whole meals at Mds but she eats there and gives them ice creams etc to keep them happy while she's enjoying her lunch. I think a relation gives her vouchers so she gets it free, hence her keeneess to go and the vouchers pay for dds'treats so it's not a kitty issue.I have drawn up a meal plan for every day, I don't like having to micromanage but I fear it's necessary.

Agree with NN a review is good - we've had five weeks over holidays, term begins next week so it's a good time to go over the pros and cons on both sides.

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StarExpat · 05/09/2010 09:33

Lol I'd be the same as ruby and I think it would take ms a good while to find a good fit if I was looking for a nanny. Fortunately, I can't afford it Grin

nbee84 · 05/09/2010 09:28

Ruby - do you have a very young nanny? Or inexperienced? In those cases what you do is good and helpful to the nanny to learn about good nutrition etc. To be honest with you though, it is the sort of micro managed job that I (and I suspect lots of others) would run a mile from! Grin

StarExpat · 05/09/2010 09:26

I send all food for ds to my cm and have said what I am happy/not happy for him to have for other snacks that she may give ... And she 100% respects my wishes and agrees that a healthy diet is essential. And she's my cm... So technicAlly she could say "no, I give x for snacks. Take it or leave it". With a nanny, you are get employer. Whatever you say, goes.
McDs and sweets daily is just silly. It's common sense. I agree, have a review like NN said.

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