Does a Short labour equal a long 3rd stage?

As a rule of thumb we are happy to wait up to 2 hours - the longest we have waited has been 1hour 20 min so far. The AIMS book I sent you a link for may have a reference for length of physiological third stage.

What were the other supporting factors out of interest secur? Glad you have got the support you needed.

with my 2nd labour I had a very short second stage (5 minutes - not sure, it was an unassisted one so there wasn't anything in my notes) and and equally fast, and obviously natural, 3rd stage.
My other labours don't compare - had very long 2nd stage first time round and with my third I had a managed 3rd stage.
2under2 here - finally changed my nickname!

I had a 4.5 hour 1st labour, and my placenta took just under 20 minutes to deliver. I had a jab (can't remember being consulted about that) and it was amidst loads of uncomfortable tugging by the midwife. ('Till I told her to 'LEAVE IT!'
I'm having a homebirth this time, and I've spoken with my midwife about it, and we're going to go with breastfeeding rather than a jab this time. I breastfed last time, and she doesn't feel the procedures they used to remove the placenta were warranted in my case, but more down to the hospitals policy.

I had a short labour with dd (my third), baby and placenta came more or less together accompanied by a fairly large blood loss. For the record I was never given a choice with regard to the injection although my eldest was born nearly 16 years ago (and you weren't given a lot of info about anything) and placentas for both the others came pretty quickly, within 10 minutes.

I had a short labour with DS2 and - guess what - yes, a trip to the operating theatre for manual removal of placenta. Determined to have physiological third stage this time.

Secur, i know for my first baby I wasn't told either. I found out by accident when pg with number 2.

Pisser, And you must join the homebirth list! Sometimes I find the most vocal women on there a bit militant, but there's a quiet majority (I think majority), who just want HomeB coz they think it's a nice thing and aren't necessarily all that alternative. The list is all about getting support for homebirth in the face of such stupid opposition and lack of information.

Ah, ok, yes, that's the problem with the jab, it is only offered as a convenience and I guess it reduces risk of hemorage, but most women are not susceptible to that, anyway. Otherwise, it increases the risk of a post-partum trip to operating theatre to get the placenta out, personally I don't think the trade off is worth it for a woman at low risk of post-partum hemorage!
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labours in both cases were under an hour from first real twang to delivery, placenta was 55 mins with 1st and 45 mins with 2nd baby
No injection I read up on it said no way would I even discuss it until 2 hrs 45 mins after delivery had passed (info I had read up on said that up to 3hrs was very safe to be left to do it naturally)
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I had 55 minutes with DS ten yrs ago and 45 minutes this time with DD 17 mths ago.
I absolutely refused to discuss it until 2hrs 45 had passed, which is when is could by the literature I read become physiologically compromising. 3rd stage was thus longer than 1-2 put together on both occasions! I spent the tiem in between bonding and feeding, it was lovely, meant I could stay close and relax...

Once you have had an injection the placenta is expected within 10mins. At 20 mins people are getting twitchy and at 40 mins retained placenta is expected. The ergometrine in sytometrine can cause the cervix to clamp down and trap the placenta if not delivered within time frame above. That is why concern has been expressed to Secur.

40-45 minutes is not a long third stage!!! Not if you haven't had the synthetic hormone, I mean. I can't believe you were told that past 30 minutes was unacceptable. I've think I heard 1.5 hours as a policy limit when I had my homebirth; there was a poll on the homebirth list and some women took up to 4 hours to get the placenta out. I can't remember the average for physiological 3rd stage, but I feel sure I've always heard 45 minutes (about how long it took me).
Your consultant is talking rubbish, Secur. Are you on the homebirth email list? ? You mustn't let this issue dissuade you if HomeB is what you want.

I don't think this will be much help but... my longest labour was 12hrs (delivery about 20 mins?) and my shortest was 4 (delivery about 30 secs!), both times I had the injection and I delivered the placenta in about 5/10 minutes.

If its happened to you 3 times though, surely thats just the way you do it IYSWIM!