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Childbirth

Share experiences and get support around labour, birth and recovery.

Caesarians are bad - Michel Odent now

111 replies

Welshmum · 23/03/2004 10:47

He's about to do an interview on BBC radio 5Live (11am Tuesday) about elective c-sections inflicting babies with 'an impaired capacity for happiness'. Should be interesting....

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aloha · 23/03/2004 11:38

Mind you, if I did have a vaginal birth, I'd prefer a quiet space with as few people around as poss and I would prefer to have someone helping me through it who knew what it felt like, rather than arc lights and a room full of people watching me puff and pant. I do actually agree with him on that point. And he has been hugely influential in giving women the right to choose how they give birth instead of being strapped, lying down on a bed etc.

marthamoo · 23/03/2004 11:36

Is this the nutcase who says only women should be allowed in the delivery room and, furthermore, only women who have (a) given birth vaginally and (b) were born vaginally themselves? Otherwise it is like having a "predator" in the room?

Mmmmmm.

Crunchie · 23/03/2004 11:35

Bundle, surely then by his own admission (although I didn't listen to the interview) he should shut the F* up and find another job.

aloha · 23/03/2004 11:34

Mind you, if I did have a vaginal birth, I'd prefer a quiet space with as few people around as poss and I would prefer to have someone helping me through it who knew what it felt like, rather than arc lights and a room full of people watching me puff and pant. I do actually agree with him on that point. And he has been hugely influential in giving women the right to choose how they give birth instead of being strapped, lying down on a bed etc.

dottee · 23/03/2004 11:32

All I can remember between the delivery and the placenta is cuddling dd (who now has severe SN)and a bucket being placed below my rear end as a registrar wasn't available for the next half hour. He had been in when we were in difficulty to set up forceps but she popped out just as the stirrups were being put in place.

I demanded c-section with ds - I didn't want to be put in a position where I'd panic if things weren't going right again.

There is no different between the gorgeous and unconditional love my children give me and in return, I adore them.

During the interview I did wonder what planet he was on!!!

Oh and on a personal note, there's been no problem with the c-section scar at all. But the episiotomy still gives me jip during sex sometimes!

aloha · 23/03/2004 11:32

Kiwisbird, elective doesn't mean you've chosen to have a section, it merely means it is planned rather than an emergency done in labour.
Oxytocin is always released in labour as I understand it - it is part of the chain of hormones that start the labour process.
Odent actually says that c-sections are at least as safe as vaginal deliveries in terms of survival etc but he has this theory about hormones which I am very doubtful about. But then I'm not in the least confounded by people who choose sections - one of my closest friends did so (two very happy children) and I would definitely choose one if I had another child. I am secretly a bit baffled by anyone NOT choosing one - each to their own, eh?

bundle · 23/03/2004 11:30

ffs, only women who are mothers should be midwives - would people only want to be operated on by heart surgeons who'd had a heart attack???

bundle · 23/03/2004 11:27

"best experience of birth: when it's quiet, no one else around" - and quite often dead, in the past, I assume M.Odent.
this man shouldn't be allowed on unchallenged.

kiwisbird · 23/03/2004 11:22

complex cocktail of love hormones... Oxytocin underload...
I think he is more focussed on the elective option perhaps???, I mean if a babys health is at risk fromm a vaginal birth then absolutely a c section is the best option, I am still confounded by women who choose a c section for non essential reasons, some with first babies...
I had 2 "easy" natural births and would be scared of a c section for any reason, but childbirth is about choice, you weigh up pros and cons and makes your choices.... You cannot turn it into a right and wrong...
Also surely oxytocin isn't always released in vaginal deliveries ? Do these babies suffer from this alleged happiness deprivation?

fio2 · 23/03/2004 10:51

hear hear hmb!! my sentiments exactly

hmb · 23/03/2004 10:51

Well, my two are happy! And a heck of a lot happier than being dead, which was the option.