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Is there such a thing as Creative Pronunciation, and isn't it a bit...

138 replies

Mahauld · 02/12/2009 14:44

...mad?

I mean where people use pronunciations they have decided on which are obviously wrong.
Is it really bad manners to correct them and isn't is just 'creative' pronunciation.
Or is it acceptable to make-up your own pronunciation as some make-up names?

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RitaMorgan · 21/04/2011 21:14

I know a Sean pronounced Seen.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 21/04/2011 20:49

:o

Trebuchet · 21/04/2011 20:28

pmsl @Bucharest

AlpinePony · 21/04/2011 20:26

That's what I thought - and bit my tongue! Wink As we sat and ate our feta she told it tasted just like goat's cheese. Grin I went home with quite a swollen tongue!

GwendolineMaryLacey · 21/04/2011 20:20

Daft. Like Seamus James. You might as well call yourself John John and have done with it!

AlpinePony · 21/04/2011 20:15

Can I have the opinion please from any Gaelic/Irish about this name? An acquaintance has named her daughter "Caitlin Kathleen" and I thought of this thread when I heard it...

CoteDAzur · 21/04/2011 19:54

I met this woman whose DD became friendly with mine. I heard her call her DD "May-uh" so when the time came to send them a birthday invitation, I wrote her name as Mea. She said her name is written "Maya" Hmm

People really shouldn't name their children words they don't know how to pronounce.

mustdash · 21/04/2011 18:57

DD1 is a Katriona. Less common spelling, but we think still Ok (didn't want a C for family reasons).

No issues with pronunciation, because most of the time she is just Katie.

We do love it when she goes to somewhere new and gets Kat -rye- ooo - na though.

We're east coast, and generally I'd say the O is there, but very very light. We don't stress about it though! A bit like Desert O above says about Niamh.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 21/04/2011 18:57

The -uh in Catriona is the same as in the pronunciation of Niamh, which isn't Neeve but Ni-uhv with the uh a very quick sound.

(always wanted to say gavel)

I know of an Aisling who is pronounced Ay-shlin instead of Ash-lin. Drives me potty every time I hear it.

DesertOrchid · 21/04/2011 18:40

Some of this is just due to names crossing borders to places where people don't know the original pronunciation of the letters, or the traditional place for syllable emphasis. Greek names for example would also have different pns depending on whether you used a classical or modern pn. I've seen lots of people claiming Ismene as Iz-MAY-nee or Iz-MEE-NEE but have a classics scholar friend who reckons it should be more like IS-muh-nee.

Additionally the crossing borders issue removes the original accent. If Catriona is 'Ka-TREE-uh-a' with a subtle Irish accent, you can see how those hearing it could change it to either Katrina or Catreeohna. Niamh is another one - Irish people seem to be able to say it so that you hear both the i and the a, but for the English it comes out just as Neev.

BikeRunSki · 21/04/2011 12:45

A friend of mine has just given her 2 week old daughter a very common name (top ten) with a totally made up spelling, "to make it more unsual". The poor girl will spend her life spelling out her name, and it still sounds the same. If you want an unusual name, fine, but use a properly unusual name!

tammytoby · 21/04/2011 12:37

Many names DO have different pronounciations especially in a global environment. Why is it such a big deal? Just pronounce it how the 'owner' wishes it to be pronounced - easy Smile.

stroid · 21/04/2011 12:36

But I knew of a Sean who pronounced his name See-ann. In my head that doesn't make it right!

FoxyRevenger · 21/04/2011 12:24

But stroid that's my point.

Just because you know people called Cat-ree-na doesn't make it the only and definitive pronunciation.

FoxyRevenger · 21/04/2011 12:23

Oh god, the bloody Catriona thing again.

I'm Scottish. I have known people who pronounce it Katreena and others whose name is pronounced KatreeOHna.

Can't we just leave it at that? It's like the Lucia thing - different pronunciations. That's all.

Angry

Sigh.

stroid · 21/04/2011 12:11

Pronounciation issues put me off the name Finlay. To me (and all fellow Scots) we pronounce it Fin-lay but people keep pronouncing it as Fin-leee which sounds so wrong to me.

We've decided to go for just the shortened version Finn for now.

Re Catriona - definitely pronounced Cat-ree-na. I know many!

goodegg · 21/04/2011 11:04

It's 'Mairi's Wedding' not Marie!

Scottish song, Scottish not French spelling.

Gutted re Caitlin, it was on my shortlist and I'm sure you're all right that it's Americanised to say Kate-Lynn but living dahn saaf I don't want to saddle my child with a Gaelic name no-one can pronounce Sad

stardustn · 20/04/2011 23:32

Sorry to resurrect such an old thread
My name is Helena (pronounced Hel-ee-na) and the vast majority of people call me Helen-uh upoon first seeing it written down. It does become slightly irritating but it's something you just get used to, and doesn't really bother me. The annoying thing is people correcting it, which people do! The school librarian once insisted that it was Helen-uh and refused to call me Hel-ee-na, and my friend Clara, who pronounced her name Clair-a, was told by a teacher "I know you say it Clair-a but i will call you Clarr-a because it sounds classier" Shock

RnB · 08/12/2009 13:57

My name is Naomi. I would have thought it is quite simple to pronounce. Nay-OH-mie or (what is actually correct) NAY-oh-mie.

The amount of time I get called NEE-oh-mie or NIGH-oh-mie

MamaLazarou · 08/12/2009 13:46

Do you know, I've really gone off the name Catriona now.

kateyfer · 08/12/2009 13:27

agree with rachiesparrow, creative spelling is far more annoying than creative pronunciation.

my mum used to be a nursery teacher and had a little girl there called KT (pronounced Katie). That was how it was spelt on her birth certificate as well. poor kid!

pranma · 08/12/2009 08:33

I pronounce Catriona with a short 'o' as in pot.Cat ri o na not oh.That is how my Scottish friend pronounces her dd's name.

Rachiesparrow · 07/12/2009 10:53

I've known a scottish Catri-oh-na too.

Also, does it really matter? People can choose to pronounce names any way they like.

Do personally hate creative spelling (Mykynzie, e.g.), but each to their own.

TinyPawz · 04/12/2009 23:18

Florence DD middle name is also sh middle name. It is spelt & pronounced they way it is in his country. Unfortunatley, I will be forever explaining that.....grrr

sasamaxx · 04/12/2009 22:48

Glasvegas - it does doesn't it?
Trips off a Glasgow tongue particularly well ......(being a glaswegian myself lol)