AIBU to think that the word chav is crass and overused in this talk section?

the term Chav is just as bad as "pakki" or "nigger" but for some reason it is deemed ok because it is derogatroy of class rather than colour.

it is wrong, but then im a self confessed chav and just laugh at those who seem so offended by "us"

Sophiesmummie It's not about trying to censor opinion here. It's the lazy, nothingy word that chav is. Mention a name in the top 100 and out it comes.
It does show a distinct lack of vocabulary in the user.

OP the chav users don't have the best taste in names from what I've ever known, so I wouldn't rate their opinions.

Yanbu

It seems to be incredibly overused at the moment. I have seen biblical names described as being 'chavvy' on some of these threads, which I really don't understand

I'm sure the word used to be reserved for names that are made-up or misspelled (which is still not nice, but more understandable, for thinking this). Now it seems to be used for names that are simply popular, especially after their inevitable decline down the tables. Does this mean that all the current top 10 names will be considered 'chavvy' in a few years time?

I don't like the phrase, seems to show a distinct lack of vocabulary than anything else. Plenty of more inventive ways to express an opionion on a name.

I don't object to people making negative comments about names - if you post requesting an opinion then you can expect mixed reviews.

You couldn't have said it better Sophiesmummie

Being not British, I am struggling to understand the whole 'class' concept here in the UK.

Labelling names as 'pretentious/posh' or 'chav' is a very UK specific trend, probably due to the archaic class structure. Such classifications don't exist in most other countries, where people worry more about whether they like a name, whether it sounds nice with their surname, whether it means something to them, than whether it belongs to a 'certain class'...!!

But, if people in the UK DO view names on that basis, then I guess the terms 'chav' and/or 'posh' are a good honest way to describe them - if posters ask about others' opinions, then they should expect honest answers!

I dislike the term, but it is a term favoured by a few, and it does (and will continue to) come up often on the board regardless.

I confess I thought chav came from the Cheltenham average I'd personally define it as somebody who was rather vulgar; moneyed or otherwise.

ps I love Boden, but it is quite mainstream nowadays.

"Some say it's an old romany word that just means child"

That's what I was told too. It's short for Chavioli which means child. No idea if it's true or not.

Chav doesn't mean council house or violent . Some say it's an old romany word that just means child.

But wherever it came from, it just means deliberately flash, ostentatious, label-conscious. Chav people can live in a five bedroomed mansion.

I'm a single-parent on benefits fwiw, don't shoot me but I don't see it as nasty to let people know that names they are considered may be perceived negatively by the rest of society. ALL things being equal, most people would rather give their child a name which won't be problematic or disadvantageous. If somebody offers up the chav adjective, well then at least the OP knows, even if they choose to ignore or disbelieve that comment.

I hate the use of this word, especially on MN, but i guess some posters can't think of anything more articulate to say

As for this - 'They should be shot. I bet they're all single mothers on benefits anyway.' same as above

CHAV actually means Council Housed And Violent. It was an abbreviation first used in Chatham, Kent - just for everyone's information. FACT.

And YANBU - winds me up just because I wish people knew what it actually meant before using the term.

I had a long break from MN and came back recently. Have to say I was gobsmacked at how it is seemingly OK for such words to be bandied about on MN these days.

Perhaps there should be an autoresponse for all proposed baby names saying "yes that's lovely dear"

if you want to know what people really think then let them reply however they like.

I'm not too keen on the term, but names do have connotations, and if you post for opinions, opinions is what you get.

Ha! Depends who wears it...

Sorry, am confused by the positioning of this thread. Are you suggesting Chav and Chavvy as baby names??

Barbour maybe.

I'd say what I really meant.

It seems to be a lazy generic term used by the aspirational working classes in order to disassociate themselves.

Boden is not posh surely

Actually, I find it all offensive. But especially the word "chav".

Hehe yer so funny and at last i think i understand what chav means (since noone explained it for da poor Paddy earlier )

A thread about a thread...

I don't like it myself - why don't people just say common? (If that's what they mean...)

Yanbu

Crass and overused?

They should be shot. I bet they're all single mothers on benefits anyway.