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Is this, or is this not, the No. 1 chav boys' name?

111 replies

Gunnerbean · 09/03/2009 20:11

Jayden

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kkey21 · 12/03/2009 23:36

MadameCastafiore where did my post say 'not chavvy because they are premiership footballers!'

You should work for 'The Sun' they like to twist things!

Maybe i am wrong but what i was just trying to point out was they are respectable people, not what i class as a chav!

CalaLilly · 12/03/2009 14:06

Don't worry- not stressed over this in the slightest! Just more confusion with the written word and subjectivity and not expressing clearly what I need. What I'm stressed over is work

MrsJoeMcIntyre · 12/03/2009 13:47

CalaLilly, and breathe.

CalaLilly · 12/03/2009 13:41

MrsJoeMcIntyre, I never said Logan was chavvy!!! People are rife with the misinterpretation on here I mereley said it was popular with young Mum's and that was not related to social status- I deliberately avoided confirmation of the chavvy thing as thing that label is wrong. I also had an NB defending that I did not for a second think these names should be "confined" to a particular group! Logan is a lovely name- not what I'd choose (see Scottish names thread) but lovely all the same!

And TheButterflyEffect- your statement brain boggled me! Apologies if anyone read anymore into my unusual/ Sophisticated thing than I meant! I do not see such things as artificial constructs and, as such, I certainly don't think that baby names reflect the demographics more than categories reflecting the innate qualities of the chosen name. If this was the case then surely my own choice of Scottish names would indicate that I lived in Scotland (which I don't) rather than the fact I happen to really like those names and love the meaning and significance of them?!? I may have got that wrong but thinking about it has made my head hurt

MsBeauregarde · 12/03/2009 13:03

TiggyR, I don't really know obviously but I feel in my bones that Celtic names' popularity may start to wane slightly in about (looks at watch) a year

Obviously 99% of Irish people have nothing to do with the IRA or the new Ira or the New murderers or whatever they call themselves, but I feel following the Good Friday Agreement Irish people abroad had more confidence about choosing Irish names. This had an effect on the people around them, as their choices rippled outwards.

I really, really, really, really hope I'm wrong, but if there are signs of re-emerging trouble in NI again, I think it could have a knock-on effect with the vogue for Celtic names.

before anybody tells me I don't know what I'm talking about, I'll say it first, you're right, this isn't based on anything scientific! I just feel Ireland and Scotland and all things Celtic were given their decade on the runway, and now it's time for something else to be new and fashionable.

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 12:02

Willow was a hot contender for a girl when I was expecting DS1 who is 16 now. I still really like it - I think it sounds really romantic and ethereal!

chaya5738 · 12/03/2009 11:53

Ek, what a narcissist. I wonder if his wife gets any of their next children named after her side of the family.

I quite like Willow though. Or Willa.

MrsJoeMcIntyre · 12/03/2009 11:45

I think Jaiden in Will Smith's case was because of his mum's name, Jada. Their daughter is Willow, like Will.

Fun!

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 11:42

Oh, well she's probably more responsible for it than Will Smith then! Haven't come across another Apple yet - strange that!

chaya5738 · 12/03/2009 11:34

Brittany Spear's son is called Jayden.

MrsJoeMcIntyre · 12/03/2009 11:34

Oh dear, I really like Logan. Does that make me a chav? I mean, I am from Liverpool, so I suppose I must be.

Ridiculous.

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 11:28

Actually I only don't say it on-line because

a) I want it to remain unusual but current trends lead me to suspect it may not. I don't like to put it out in the open any more than is necessary, in case it gets picked up and beomes the next big thing.

b) I like anonimity online and his name coupled with where I live would be a big giveaway to anyone who might know me.

c) I don't need anyone's opinion on it, thank you! I still like it and that's all that matters.

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 11:22

After a quick google it would appear that 'Jadon' not Jayden appears in the bible very briefly, as very much a bit-part walk-on extra! I don't think it is accepted as a classic or particulary well-known Hebrew name. I think its popularity sprang up from Will Smith calling his son Jaden (but then his wife is called Jada). Most names picked by a popular culture celebrity are eventually adopted by the masses.

Nancy66 · 12/03/2009 11:22

blimey - a lot of justification going on here. Call your kids what you want.

but a little pointless to post a whole spiel about how your child has a (possibly) chavvy name and you don't care - but not actually be brave enough to say what the name is - sort of suggests that you do care.

TiggyR · 12/03/2009 10:50

Yes. If you like. Happy?

Jaquelinehyde · 12/03/2009 10:27

TiggyR was that just your chance to show off about how wonderful your life is, because your point could have been made without listing all those details.

Yawn @ this thread, really bad form from the OP.

TheButterflyEffect · 12/03/2009 10:11

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CalaLilly · 12/03/2009 10:05

Whilst I think calling Jayden chavvy is very harsh I have noticed that a lot of younger Mum's do favour it- that doesn't relfect on their social status though but I think more that they are young and want to give their baby a modern name. Things like Brogan, Tegan, Kayden and Logan are popular with this group too. (As a neonatal nurse I get to do a fair bit of unofficial name observation )

  • Note- Jayden is not exclusively for the use of younger Mum's so please don't interpret this as that! I've just noticed that older Mum's often tend to go with more classic or unusual/ Sophisticated names!
TiggyR · 12/03/2009 09:55

Lol, I almost did!!!

Chellesgirl · 11/03/2009 23:42

lunamoon - dont go there - someone will so start that thread!

Chellesgirl · 11/03/2009 23:36

ivykaty44 - Thank you.

MsBeauregarde - what can I say??????

lunamoon2 · 11/03/2009 22:56

Blimey, I think some people need to lighten up and stop steroetyping everybody. A name is a name, there are far more important things in life to worry about!
How would we all feel if all blond women for example were excluded from university because there are obviously "thick", according to stereotype.

TiggyR · 11/03/2009 21:33

Oh, sorry. Forgot to say, the answer to the question, regrettably, is Yes.

TiggyR · 11/03/2009 21:32

I'm completely with MsBeauregarde's analysis of things (and I agree with her in wondering if some people are quite so self-righteous in private as they seem to be on MN?! Just tipping over into being a tad patronising, some of you...I wonder if you would have leapt to the defence of the upper middle classes if OP had asked if the name Jonty was typically 'posh'?

Apart from names that are clearly made up and have diabolical convoluted spellings, any name can start off sounding classy or interesting if a classy interesting person picks it. But then it can get hijacked, sometimes years later by um, unsuitables. It's clear to me from reading MN threads that the C word has different connotations to different people.

I ran my My DS3s name through the MN search engine to see if anyone had it, as in almost ten years I've never met or heard of another one. It was described on here by someone as awful and disgusting and common, and they said that anyone who used it could only possibly come from Essex or Liverpool. Well actually, I do live in Essex, though I lived in Kent when I chose it, so what does that mean? And I found that asssumption very offensive. I am not remotely common or thick, or lacking in taste or style. (believe it or not, most of us here aren't you know ). I am affluent, my children are privately educated, and my husband has a professional qualification and a senior management job in the City. My house is a shrine to Farrow and Ball sludge and I wouldn't dream of wearing anything with a shouty label on the outside. I watch virtually no TV, and we holiday in the Dordogne. I have no fake body parts and no alarming two-tone hair, no piercings, no tattoos, no polyester sportswear, no scary gold jewellery with gallopy horses and bendy dollies on, no 'staffie' and I don't even own a pair of trainers. And yet, apparently, I have a very common, disgusting, laughable naff name, worthy only of the worst parts of Essex and Liverpool. Go figure!!!!

My DS's name isn't made up. It is actually a very old name that has always in all the name books, and has been for donkey's years but clearly overlooked because, a bit like Digby, as MsB mentioned earlier, it's very unusual and not many people would choose it -they obviously find it too challenging, but in a sea of Jonathans and and Lukes and Bens that's just fine by me! But Digby now seems to be a good choice if you want a slightly ironic, uber-cool, daring name that also has a traditional middle-class old-school ring to it, like Wilf or Arthur. How many Digbys were knocking around ten years ago? Or Archies? Or Wilfs or Stans? But as the trends for names develop and evolve, people get on a theme, and I would not be surprised if DS's name does eventually become popular in entirely the wrong sort of way, becasue it is an old Irish name and that's currently a popular theme, but hey, I didn't have a crystal ball nearly 10 years ago - all I knew was that I didn't want to saddle the world with yet another bloody
Jack or James! (DS has 7 Jameses in his class . It's always a gamble - but as MsB said, the alternative is to call all babies Matthew or Jonathan, Emma or Sarah. Perfectly acceptable but dull. Or you pick the popular choice of the moment, and find that your child is the fifth Amelia or Olivia in the class - she's the Sharon and Tracy of tomorrow. Or you go for the very clunky and hideously pretentious Octavia or Mungo or Orlando, which are in themselves a bit of a laughable stereotype. So what to do?

RachieB · 11/03/2009 20:03

IMO there are far more "chavtastical" names out there than Jayden / Jaiden / Jaden

I know a few of the above named children ,and none of their parents are "chavs"

Think its a bit "off" to purposely start a thread about this ,if asked for your opinion then fine ....