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Islamic Boy's Name

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Boulders · 24/12/2008 20:29

Am liking Zakir, Zak for short. Do you think that it ok to shorten the name?

Any opinions on the name or suggestions of others that are suitable as a western cross-over name?

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littleducks · 31/12/2008 13:51

fuzzywuzzy- im glad its not just me hearing all these people refer to people as saints!!!

Boulders- let us know the next contenders

breadandroses · 31/12/2008 13:48

I have a Zaki

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Boulders · 31/12/2008 13:39

Thank you for your replies. The OH has now decided that he does not like Zakir so we are having a re-think. We already have a DS called Adam.

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missymoo2411 · 30/12/2008 13:19

isreal ,(izzy) for short not sure were it comes from

noonki · 29/12/2008 22:05

I love samir

fuzzywuzzy · 29/12/2008 22:04

Oh lots of muslim people will say muslims believe in saints, I think people who were considered holy are losely described as saints. Those called who earn the name wali are I suppose described as satins.

Muslims beleive in all the old testament prophets(pbut), we also bleievei n John the Baptiste as a prophet Sam, Saul I actually love the arabic equivelant of Saul.....

Anyway yes I rather like Zakir, and have heard it shortened to Zak.

fuzzywuzzy · 29/12/2008 21:58

Zakir means rememberance or something similar, it's my dads name and he's always been called Zak by everyone.

SnowMuchToBits · 29/12/2008 21:56

Well, sorry, Cote, but I am only going by what Alireza's dad (an Iranian Shia Muslim) told me!

festivedollyx · 29/12/2008 21:54

I know a guy called Islam it really suits him he is egyptian also know a Zak, Karim and Sam they are brothers i think they are lovely names.

CoteDAzur · 29/12/2008 11:20

Friends recently named their boy "Sami" which crosses over nicely imho.

How about Zaki? You can still shorten it to Zak.

LiffeyeRamhairAnois · 29/12/2008 11:19

Love Zakir/Zak. That's a really great one.

LiffeyeRamhairAnois · 29/12/2008 11:18

I know an Isaam, which is pronounced ee-sam. it's a good one as people too thick insular to grasp ee-sam can just say sam.

CoteDAzur · 29/12/2008 11:17

Snowmuch - Repeat after me:

There Are No Saints In Islam.

Ali and Reza were IMAMs. Imam does not mean "saint". Alireza's father is wrong, or perhaps just couldn't be bothered to explain it to you properly.

missymoo2411 · 29/12/2008 09:46

isnt there a version off sam some were am noy sure but new of a little boy called samiren not sure which faith it is tho but i liked it .

LadyMuck · 29/12/2008 09:39

We have several Danyals locally. Boys names tend to get shortened, so Zak/Zakir would work too.

bridget001 · 29/12/2008 09:28

hello/ as salaam wa alaykum

my fave islamic names for boys are as follows

zubayr (dont know if i spelled that right)

umar

khalid

zakariah

musa

zakir is lovely also my friend has a wee boy called zakariah she calls him zack zuck for short lol am sure theres nothing wrong with zak lol

would also like to comment that shia muslims and shia muslims are on completly different religions
am a sunnah muslim we have no saints etc only the prophets and messengers of Allah 25 are mentioned byname in the quran

ilyas is also a nice name

take care
bridget

SnowMuchToBits · 28/12/2008 22:32

Well Alireza's Dad I think said Ali and Reza were the first and ??seventh saint. They are Shia Muslims btw.

leothelioness · 27/12/2008 11:27

You are right cote, my mistake.
OP are you any closer to chosing a name??

CoteDAzur · 27/12/2008 08:58

That would be the number of messengers ("rasul") from Allah, not prophets ("nabi").

leothelioness · 27/12/2008 08:46

Sorry cote the actual figure I was thinking of was 124000 not 147000 however this figure is not mentioned in the quran I think it is from a hadith but I donot remember exactly which one.

Nighbynight · 26/12/2008 18:21

sorry for hijack too....in ex h's village (muslim), they have saints, and the saints have a house. But I think this is a local tradition, left over from the long ago days of christianity. The saints looked after the village, and nobody wanted to get rid of them after they converted to islam, so the saints stayed put.

CoteDAzur · 26/12/2008 13:57

Yes, he is, but Ali has a much higher significance for Shia. Hint: He is the reason for the Shia/Sunni division of Islam.

I'm sorry but there is no such shia/protestant, sunni/catholic "parallel". They are totally different divisions of very different religions. Shia don't believe in anything comparable to saints, either.

Maybe these are comparisons "used regularly" in the UK, by converts into Islam from Christianity, who need a frame of reference from within Christianity. But elsewhere, I can assure you, no such "use" exists.

littleducks · 26/12/2008 13:50

Ali is the first imam for shia muslims, as i said saint is strictly true but is a comparison used regularly, as sunni islam is paralleled to protestant christianity and shia islam to catholism

CoteDAzur · 26/12/2008 13:35

Imam does not mean 'saint', not by any stretch of the imagination.

Ali was not just an imam. That is a highly significant name for Shia Muslims. I don't know of a Reza of great religious importance. Ali Reza was another Shia imam, though.

leo - I have never heard of 147000 prophets "recognized by Islam". If it's not in Quran, is it in hadith (I doubt it). And if not, where is it? And what does "recognized by Islam" mean in that context?

Sorry for thread hijack but I'm intrigued.

leothelioness · 26/12/2008 10:34

we have a Zia (too short to make it shorter but everyone can say it) and Shiraz which could have a few shortenings but we use it just as it is) I also like Adam.

By the way Cote islam recognises 147000 prophets but only a few are named in the Quran. No saints as far as I am aware either