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ITS OK TO CALL YOUR CHILD THE "SHORT" VERSION OF A NAME - SO BOLLOCKS TO ALL YOU FARKING SNOBS WHO TURN YOUR NOSES UP!

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MamaG · 28/08/2008 14:19

You know who you are!

I did this with DS (as in Archie rather than Archibald - but a completely different name) and MIL in particular went ON and ON about it - the long version of DS's name sounds a tad pompous and I DON'T LIKE IT.

I don't want to hear ANYBODY on MN bleat "oh don't call him Ben, it has to be Benjamin" etc again

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MamaG · 29/08/2008 11:26

I do think it depends on teh name

I love Sam and Samuel for example so would call a boy Samuel known as Sam

I like Alfie but not Alfred so I'd just call the boy Alfie

I'm just fickle aren't I

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BEAUTlFUL · 29/08/2008 11:02

I find it really interesting learning what diminutives go with which "real" name.

IE, Sally is short for Sarah; Kit is short for Christopher, etc.

I also think it's important that we keep the "real" names going... But I accept that that might be a weird view.

notsoteenagemum · 29/08/2008 10:58

Sorrry Beautiful but the your names your name its only a nick-name if its not your actual name. Like the wedding idea though!

WickedBitchoftheEast · 29/08/2008 10:48

The day my son was born they asked me what his name was so I told them (this is not his real name, I just pinched it from Jux) Tim and the first thing Doc said was 'OK baby Timothy' WTF ? and then proceeded to write it on all his documentation!

Two years down the line they still call him the extended version of the name, but it's NOT his bloody name.

There are no words to describe the ignorance, well none that I can print on here.

BEAUTlFUL · 29/08/2008 10:47

But really, the best thing about calling your kids the full version of their names, is giving their friends a chuckle during the wedding ceremony.

BEAUTlFUL · 29/08/2008 10:45

I wouldn't call my kids shortened versions, it'd be like Christening them with nicknames. I love shortened versions as an affectionate name for every-day use, but they're not REAL names, not proper OFFICIAL names... It's not right, it's not right

One of my boys is called Harry, so on his birth cert, I have called him Henry, as that is the real name. Since then, it's been non-stop from DH's side of the family, "Oh I never knew that Harry was short for Henry; how can it be a shortened version when it's the same length?" etc, etc. It just is, you thickos, is what I always think but never say.

My SIL said, "So is Prince Harry really called Henry?"

"Yes, of course," I said.

"Bollocks!" was her reply. She wouldn't believe me and actually went and looked it up on Wikipedia.

notsoteenagemum · 29/08/2008 10:25

I agree I have Alfie not Alfred but my Great-Gran said he'll never be prime-minister with a nick-name! I'm Kate but everyone thinks I'm Katherine which is annoying or they actually call me Katie which is even more annoying.
DD is just M though not Molly ha ha

pooka · 29/08/2008 10:08

DS is Tom. Not Thomas. Just Tom.

I like Tom, and yet for some inexplicable reason, and not keen on Thomas. Something to do with the "as" at the end.

cece · 29/08/2008 10:04

We call DS the shortened version of his long name. Since he was a baby he has always been the shortened version as that is the name we liked. However as he is getting older I am finding I am starting to call him the longer version a little bit now. So I am pleased with have given him the choice for when he is older.

As a child my dad (who is called William offically) was called Billy but as an adult is called Bill. Except when he is in trouble with my mum. Then he is called William

hatrick · 29/08/2008 09:59

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Weegiemum · 28/08/2008 23:04

My family call me the shortened version of my name. They didn't when I was little, but since I was a teenager they have and I hate it.

I loved leaving home, going to University and introducting myself as "weegiefullname". Everyone calls me it now - friends, family, dh, il's - everyone except my immediate family - I have asked them to, but they never seem to remember!

I am VERY VERY glad that I had the longer version available to me. My daughters both have names that can be shortened if they choose and in fact dd1 has started to use a shortened version. Ds's name can't really be shortened.

Its not as if my long name is that long - 5 letters! But I like it and want it, and if they had called me the 3 letter short version - well I suppose I might have liked it, but I much prefer my real name.

Names are chosen by parents but they belong to the child. I think giving the most amount of options is the best way to go. If you want Ben, then give Benjamin. If you want Sam, give Samantha, or Samuel. Give them the choice - they are going to have to live with it longer than you are, hopefully!

Heifer · 28/08/2008 23:03

MamaG this will help

Now I have to disagree with you I'm afraid..

I personally think that it is best to give them the full version of the name, and then if you so wish you can shorten it yourself.

Tis then the childs choice what they want to use later in life.

I'm not that keen on my full name, in fact as my parents are no longer alive I am seldom called it, BUT I do like to be able to use if for offical stuff (maybe because I am one of those farking snobbs you referred to)...

Wezzle · 28/08/2008 22:44

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ghosty · 28/08/2008 22:42

'We is named'? Good grammar ghosty ...
That should read, "DS is named ..."

ghosty · 28/08/2008 22:41

We is named one name but we call him a shortened version of it and have done since he was a few days old. We had friends who called him another shortened version of it because they 'preferred it' ...
I was too riddled with PND to do anything about it but cry every time they visited but it was farking rude of them and one day I will have my revenge

Like I said on the other baby name thread - just call your baby what you want to call him or her and fark what anyone else says ...

Janni · 28/08/2008 22:36

Is this rant inspired by the 'Bo' thread?

There's 'shortened' and there's 'blink and you miss it'.

Is the credit crunch even affecting how many letters of the alphabet we can afford?

Wezzle · 28/08/2008 22:35

We call DS the shortened version of his name

My mother went on and on about how she preferred the long version

and for some unknown reason, as I have never taken any notice of her before

I got the long version on his birth certificate

and now really wish that I hadn't

It's not his name and never will be

skinflint · 28/08/2008 22:21

I really wanted to call my daughter by a shortened name (Livvy for Olivia) but we've all adopted my older daughters' early way of saying her name "Wivwa" wtf? We're idiots

MamaG · 28/08/2008 22:15
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nooka · 28/08/2008 21:42

Personally I really don't like nick/pet names as given names. I have a long name, my family always call me by a shortening of it, but as an adult I always use the full version. I think it is nice to have choice. Also I always think it a little strange to call your child a shortened version of a name you don't actually like.

But that is my personal view. I don't go around telling other people I don't like their names (well except on Mumsnet of course!)

fryalot · 28/08/2008 21:33

hey MamaG

I have two children whose names get shortened and one child whose name gets lengthened.

And they all have nicknames.

Tell your MIL to MHOB and tell her you're calling the kid Clamydia.

hatrick · 28/08/2008 21:29

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findtheriver · 28/08/2008 20:50

Calm down OP!!
Why is it a problem???
You can call your child what the hell you like (though you may well get laffed at on here!!).
Personally I think a full name is good to go on the birth certificate, also because the full name will have a meaning, and mainly because it gives the child a choice about which to use.
But you call your kiddies whatever you like!

InTheseShoes · 28/08/2008 20:46

note - I do not think lower class are rough, I come from a council estate in inner City Liverpool - I am having a laugh

lljkk · 28/08/2008 20:44

People who don't do nicknames are just so BORING.

I choose names precisely because they have lots of nicknames. We use all the names (short and long versions). DS prefers the long version of his name, while DD prefers the short version. They don't mind the other variations at all, though.

I have an very common name with no obvious nicknames, but people make them up, I like this. I interpret it as an effort to be friendly.