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Would the meaning of the name Mallory steer you away?

82 replies

iruma77 · 15/09/2026 12:57

I’ve been obsessed with the name for years and years, but mentioned it in passing to someone and they were shocked we even considered it. It’s such a beautiful name & I haven’t cared about the meaning of anyones name before!

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GaaNeen · 16/09/2026 11:59

Mallory to me is ….. the climber

Chersfrozenface · 16/09/2026 11:57

yonem · 16/09/2026 11:34

How is ‘the sound of people killing each other’ any better as a meaning?

It may not be.

But Mark means 'dedicated to the god of war' or 'warlike'. Matilda comes from the elements 'battle' and 'mighty'. Rhys means 'martial ardour', i.e. the urge to rush into the fray.

And people get medals for courage in battle and are admired for it. It's a part of most cultures. Hardly surprising that such names exist.

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 11:51

stickygotstuck · 16/09/2026 10:36

I can assure you that my reaction to a bad flavour is entirely comparable to that of a bad meaning. I don't like it, so I avoid it. No misunderstanding there.

Sarah is sufficiently popular and common to have other association's than the 'original' biblical Sarah. Thats is not the case with, say, Penelope. Penelope for me will always be the lonely woman that Ulysses left to be bullied by everyone and his mother while he went off gallivanting. Beautiful name, wrong association.

The attitude to names is obviously in the eye of the beholder, as we've seen in this thread. Which I find fascinating, because I'd have thought it was the actual taste in names that was subjective. But it turns out it's also the importance attached to their meaning that is subjective too. Whereas I assumed it was a universal thing.

Every day is a school day!

OP, sorry for the derail. Have you made up your mind about Mallory yet?

Penelope for me will always be the lonely woman that Ulysses left to be bullied by everyone and his mother while he went off gallivanting. Beautiful name, wrong association.

The Penelopiad or the Songs of Penelope trilogy give a fresh and very interesting perspective on her.

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 11:48

stickygotstuck · 16/09/2026 09:05

You misunderstand, I think.

It's not the name of the food, it's the food itself. Looks good. You try, you hate it. Then you order it next time you go to a restaurant? Really?

Same with James (which does not mean that BTW). You hear it, you think you may like it for your baby. You look into it and you find out if means 'supplanter' or 'vengeful invader' or 'dishonest', or whatever. And you'd use it anyway? Really?

I have never met anyone who doesn't care about what a name means. That's kind of the point of words, including names.

Same with James (which does not mean that BTW)
James does mean supplanter, in Hebrew.
But it also brings to mind Scottish kings and a biblical apostle, which might be why some people like it.

yonem · 16/09/2026 11:34

Chersfrozenface · 16/09/2026 08:09

Tristan developed from a Brythonic name Drust - there were several Pictish kings of that name - meaning "noise, tumult", likely referring to the noise of battle.

It only became associated with sadness when French romanciers took Celtic legends and altered names, in this case linking the name Drystan/Trystan with the Latin rooted word for "sad" more familiar to them.

How is ‘the sound of people killing each other’ any better as a meaning?

stickygotstuck · 16/09/2026 10:36

I can assure you that my reaction to a bad flavour is entirely comparable to that of a bad meaning. I don't like it, so I avoid it. No misunderstanding there.

Sarah is sufficiently popular and common to have other association's than the 'original' biblical Sarah. Thats is not the case with, say, Penelope. Penelope for me will always be the lonely woman that Ulysses left to be bullied by everyone and his mother while he went off gallivanting. Beautiful name, wrong association.

The attitude to names is obviously in the eye of the beholder, as we've seen in this thread. Which I find fascinating, because I'd have thought it was the actual taste in names that was subjective. But it turns out it's also the importance attached to their meaning that is subjective too. Whereas I assumed it was a universal thing.

Every day is a school day!

OP, sorry for the derail. Have you made up your mind about Mallory yet?

FringedAnd · 16/09/2026 09:24

stickygotstuck · 16/09/2026 09:05

You misunderstand, I think.

It's not the name of the food, it's the food itself. Looks good. You try, you hate it. Then you order it next time you go to a restaurant? Really?

Same with James (which does not mean that BTW). You hear it, you think you may like it for your baby. You look into it and you find out if means 'supplanter' or 'vengeful invader' or 'dishonest', or whatever. And you'd use it anyway? Really?

I have never met anyone who doesn't care about what a name means. That's kind of the point of words, including names.

I think you misunderstand, if you think discovering you don’t like the taste of a specific food is in anyway comparable to discovering a deeply ordinary name means ‘supplanted’ or ‘crooked’, or has a sad/bad associated story

I mean, Sarah, probably the UK’s most ordinary female name, has lots of associated unpleasantness — the Biblical Sarah is best known for her unhappy barrenness, having a child in extreme old age, and for banishing the slave her even more ancient husband had had a child with. In some stories (possibly Torah) she dies of grief after she’s misinformed her husband actually killed their son as a human sacrifice after God told him to. (In fact God changed kindly his mind at the last minute…) The Nazis forced Jewish women who didn’t already have an ‘identifiably Jewish’ first name to add the name Sara/h to their documents in 1939.

I mean, none of that is exactly happy stuff, but yet Sarah is perennially popular.

stickygotstuck · 16/09/2026 09:05

TellHerIFeelFine · 16/09/2026 08:34

It isn't really though, because food that you like doesn't suddenly turn disgusting because you find out it's name means "horribleness".
James means "supplanter" , would you avoid that?

You misunderstand, I think.

It's not the name of the food, it's the food itself. Looks good. You try, you hate it. Then you order it next time you go to a restaurant? Really?

Same with James (which does not mean that BTW). You hear it, you think you may like it for your baby. You look into it and you find out if means 'supplanter' or 'vengeful invader' or 'dishonest', or whatever. And you'd use it anyway? Really?

I have never met anyone who doesn't care about what a name means. That's kind of the point of words, including names.

TellHerIFeelFine · 16/09/2026 08:34

stickygotstuck · 16/09/2026 08:13

It's the second time I read the word 'superstitious' in this thread. I don't follow. What do irrational beliefs have to do with disliking the meaning of a name?

Why would anyone choose a name with a a negative (to you) meaning on purpose?

It's a bit like saying you don't care that a particular food tastes horrible, you're going to order it anyway.

It isn't really though, because food that you like doesn't suddenly turn disgusting because you find out it's name means "horribleness".
James means "supplanter" , would you avoid that?

saraclara · 16/09/2026 08:22

stickygotstuck · 15/09/2026 21:57

Well, I for one am extremely surprised that some people don't care about the meaning or origin of the names they choose.

You learn something every day!

The only place I hear people discuss the meaning of a name, is on Mumsnet.

It has never occurred to me to wonder or care what the meaning of anyone's name is.

Mallory is the bonkers mother of Archer, to me. But it turns out there's only one l in her name.

FringedAnd · 16/09/2026 08:21

DisplayPurposesOnly · 16/09/2026 08:16

There's only one L in Malory Towers. (Which looks soooo wrong.)

I like Mallory or Malorie. Not keen on Mal though which is presumably what it inevitably gets shortened to.

See, MT is my earliest familiarity with the word and the double I looks terribly wrong to me. As would ‘St Claire’s’ with an i. Or Whyteleafe School without the ‘y’.

Error404FucksNotFound · 16/09/2026 08:20

The superstitious thing is more about the idea that a child's name will affect or shape their life in some way.
Eg Calvin means bald so if you name your child Calvin, they will lose their hair.
Otto means rich so if you name your child otto, they will make lots of money.

thatwasclose · 16/09/2026 08:20

It’s Malory Towers. One ‘L’.

You’re welcome.

TheBirdintheCave · 16/09/2026 08:18

It’s a surname so I wouldn’t use it as a first name for that reason.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 16/09/2026 08:16

There's only one L in Malory Towers. (Which looks soooo wrong.)

I like Mallory or Malorie. Not keen on Mal though which is presumably what it inevitably gets shortened to.

stickygotstuck · 16/09/2026 08:13

AppropriateAdult · 15/09/2026 23:20

I’m equally surprised that anyone could be superstitious enough to think that using a particular name somehow means imbuing the person with qualities associated with the meaning of that name
Confused

It's the second time I read the word 'superstitious' in this thread. I don't follow. What do irrational beliefs have to do with disliking the meaning of a name?

Why would anyone choose a name with a a negative (to you) meaning on purpose?

It's a bit like saying you don't care that a particular food tastes horrible, you're going to order it anyway.

FancyKitten · 16/09/2026 08:13

I know a very outgoing Mallory, I’ve never known the meaning of the name. She’s my only one!

FringedAnd · 16/09/2026 08:11

Error404FucksNotFound · 16/09/2026 08:00

I know.
What exactly do people think will happen if their child's name meant, I dunno, bitterness or something 500 years ago? Their child will grow up bitter because thats what their name 'means'? Kids will look up the meaning of the name, circle them at playtime and chant your name means bitter, your name means bitter

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This. I don’t see huge numbers of people called utterly ordinary names like Deirdre, Dolores, Cameron, Calvin, Mara, Claudia etc oppressed by the glumness of their fate.

Chersfrozenface · 16/09/2026 08:09

yonem · 15/09/2026 13:03

Yes personally it would. I avoided Tristan for a boy for this reason as well.

Tristan developed from a Brythonic name Drust - there were several Pictish kings of that name - meaning "noise, tumult", likely referring to the noise of battle.

It only became associated with sadness when French romanciers took Celtic legends and altered names, in this case linking the name Drystan/Trystan with the Latin rooted word for "sad" more familiar to them.

Overthebow · 16/09/2026 08:08

stickygotstuck · 15/09/2026 13:58

Yes, it could be confusing as an isolated word. But my point is that it is no very commonly uttered in everyday life meaning the condition, and very often indeed meaning the given name.

My personal confusion is actually between Amelia and Emilia! 😁in fact, I know someone whose daughter's name was initially spelled in error at the Registry office and only noticed at the last minute!

Once you’ve heard it or seen it written down though then Amelia is associated with that, it doesn’t matter where the name originally came from or the where the medical condition name came from, they are the same name.

Error404FucksNotFound · 16/09/2026 08:00

AppropriateAdult · 15/09/2026 23:20

I’m equally surprised that anyone could be superstitious enough to think that using a particular name somehow means imbuing the person with qualities associated with the meaning of that name
Confused

I know.
What exactly do people think will happen if their child's name meant, I dunno, bitterness or something 500 years ago? Their child will grow up bitter because thats what their name 'means'? Kids will look up the meaning of the name, circle them at playtime and chant your name means bitter, your name means bitter

RobertaFirmino · 15/09/2026 23:34

How about Darrell, Clarissa or Gwendoline instead?

AppropriateAdult · 15/09/2026 23:20

stickygotstuck · 15/09/2026 21:57

Well, I for one am extremely surprised that some people don't care about the meaning or origin of the names they choose.

You learn something every day!

I’m equally surprised that anyone could be superstitious enough to think that using a particular name somehow means imbuing the person with qualities associated with the meaning of that name
Confused

Additup · 15/09/2026 23:11

stickygotstuck · 15/09/2026 13:11

I've avoided Penelope because of its associations, rather than meaning. But we're talking about the "original" Penelope, so might as well call it its meaning. Similarly with Lilith. Sadness and vengeful demons are not what naturally came to mind when I looked at DD!

For me, the meaning is a fundamental part of a name.

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Pitstop?

HangryBrickShark · 15/09/2026 22:29

I just think of Mallory Park the racing circuit.